Makes you proud to be British

[Witton Park]

I agree Chris.

I saw him on the ITV lunchtime news yesterday. To be absolutely honest this could really backfire.
He walked all over the journo that was questioning him and I can see thousands of people sat at home thinking "what's wrong with that?"

He made an extremely valid point where he refered to patients that are in hospital having to pay for TV.
Initially he was saying troops but
http://www.birminghammail.net/news/t...7319-24987531/
this came up!

Whether patients or troops he insisted that it was ludicrous that hospitals levied a charge whilst criminal scum got a free ride in prisons.

I cannot disagree with him on this.

In fact I have made the point on these forums about students at Uni paying for the privilege and coming out with debt, whilst criminals are costing us a fortune and we have no call on any of their future income.

[noel]

In fact I have made the point on these forums about students at Uni paying for the privilege and coming out with debt, whilst criminals are costing us a fortune and we have no call on any of their future income.

So are you proposing people come out of jail with debt for watching TV?

"In my defense your honour, I was only stealing because I had to pay for my TV loan incurred during my previous 10-year stretch"

[CL]

So are you proposing people come out of jail with debt for watching TV?

"In my defense your honour, I was only stealing because I had to pay for my TV loan incurred during my previous 10-year stretch"

I would say that he was proposing TV to be an inappropriate reward for criminals.

[noel]

I would say that he was proposing TV to be an inappropriate reward for criminals.

I did consider that, but WP, your wording does sound like you'd like to charge them retrospectively. Let's assume you were meaning they shouldn't have TV.


I think it's probably important for people in prison to have some link to cultural events in the outside world. After all, you are expecting them to re-integrate into society on release. That must be hard for those serving longer sentences.

I'd also like to prevent prisoners from going insane due to being locked in a small room for most of every day.

I think TVs are a cheap and easy way of achieving both these goals. The cost of a TV licence is also a drop in the ocean compared with the average £40,000 it costs to keep each person in prison for a year.

[CL]

I did consider that, but WP, your wording does sound like you'd like to charge them retrospectively. Let's assume you were meaning they shouldn't have TV.


I think it's probably important for people in prison to have some link to cultural events in the outside world. After all, you are expecting them to re-integrate into society on release. That must be hard for those serving longer sentences.

I'd also like to prevent prisoners from going insane due to being locked in a small room for most of every day.

I think TVs are a cheap and easy way of achieving both these goals. The cost of a TV licence is also a drop in the ocean compared with the average £40,000 it costs to keep each person in prison for a year.

The whole point to prison is to punish offenders. Giving them some of the pleasures of the outside world sends out the wrong message.

As to going insane in a small cell, they should have thought about that before biffing the old lady on the head with a crow-bar.

Almost forgot the contradiction in your last paragraph.

[mr brightside]

Can everyone slow down please, i'm only on page 5

[Muddy Retriever]

I agree Chris.

I saw him on the ITV lunchtime news yesterday. To be absolutely honest this could really backfire.
He walked all over the journo that was questioning him and I can see thousands of people sat at home thinking "what's wrong with that?"

He made an extremely valid point where he refered to patients that are in hospital having to pay for TV.
Initially he was saying troops but
http://www.birminghammail.net/news/t...7319-24987531/
this came up!

Whether patients or troops he insisted that it was ludicrous that hospitals levied a charge whilst criminal scum got a free ride in prisons.

I cannot disagree with him on this.

In fact I have made the point on these forums about students at Uni paying for the privilege and coming out with debt, whilst criminals are costing us a fortune and we have no call on any of their future income.

Regardless of whether he has a valid point on a certain issue, the fact is the central theme of the BNP is one of hatred and intolerance. I hope Griffin gets thoroughly shown up and ridiculed for the scumbag he is.

[Derby Tup]

Regardless of whether he has a valid point on a certain issue, the fact is the central theme of the BNP is one of hatred and intolerance. I hope Griffin gets thoroughly shown up and ridiculed for the scumbag he is.

My thoughts exactly. The guy is a neo-nazi and as such has nothing to contribute

[mr brightside]

Why is there a Black Police Officers Federation?

...and why isn't there a MOWO award?

[mr brightside]

Anybody willing to 'fess up and admit they voted BNP?

I've seen only one person I know who admits to voting BNP - if they have respectable policies, why does everyone shy away from admitting they voted for them?

One of my mates is staunch BNP, he's an member of the party although i'm not sure what that means exactly, i think it's just a 'fanclub' type thing.