Makes you proud to be British

[noel]

The whole point to prison is to punish offenders.

Not the whole point. Surely you'd want some attempts at rehabilitation? Also you'd like to prevent re-offending.

Anyway. Interesting though this little side discussion is into the reasons for prisons, I think we should clear the way for the deluge of posts on Nick Griffin's imminent appearance on Question Time.

I fear most of us will be disappointed - he seems pretty media-savy. I think he'll raise lots of sensible objections to the current system as a way to show the public how the BNP represent their concerns. I suspect he'll neatly side-step any direct questions on, for example, the BNP's policy of repatriation.

[stevefoster]

Courage on the battlefield is colour blind
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle2692246.ece

[Rodders rambler]

Have you seen these idiots on the news ? Is this what students do nowadays ? I suppose if they haven't received there over generous loan yet they can't be in the pub !
If this was in China they would be pulling plastic bullets out there arse ! Nice to see they are using there right to freedom of speech in protest at someone using that very right ! Irony personifed

[Witton Park]

Have you seen these idiots on the news ? Is this what students do nowadays ? I suppose if they haven't received there over generous loan yet they can't be in the pub !
If this was in China they would be pulling plastic bullets out there arse ! Nice to see they are using there right to freedom of speech in protest at someone using that very right ! Irony personifed

How is a loan over generous? It's a bloody loan! It's paid back.

No wonder the country is in the state it is when we have people more tolerant of offenders than the future taxpayers of the country.

Go and knit some yoghurt

[Witton Park]

So are you proposing people come out of jail with debt for watching TV?

"In my defense your honour, I was only stealing because I had to pay for my TV loan incurred during my previous 10-year stretch"

No - but what I would propose is that when they go to the grave that the state has claim to any of their estate.
Call it their debt to Society.

[Rodders rambler]

How is a loan over generous? It's a bloody loan! It's paid back

If i wanted a loan with no income i wouldn't get one....plus what rate of interest do they pay on the loan ? How much do they have to earn before they pay any of it back ?

[Al Fowler]

If i wanted a loan with no income i wouldn't get one....plus what rate of interest do they pay on the loan ? How much do they have to earn before they pay any of it back ?

15k before you have to pay it back.

[Rodders rambler]

Thank you Al

[Al Fowler]

I think im abit of a rubbish student really.

I dont spend my money on drugs, prostitues, extreme amounts cheap and lethal of booze, buy or wear horrendously colourful clothes and have multicoloured hair with dozens of piercings in my face. I have also have never signed the 27 million petitions that i think got thought up after drink and drugs, chain myself to tree and i dont think go on rallys complaining about something which i have absolutely no chance of making a difference about.

[stevefoster]

End of term Report: Master Fowler could do better, more effort required