Tracks up to Pennistone hill from the road are if not sheet ice, then very icey, the only cars I saw up there had 4 wheel drive, it will make for a fast run out

Any one know if the distance/ascent is still the same on the old route - is that the old old route or the old new route?

- the race tomorrow will be the old old route, see previous post - shorter as it is straight out and back but as it goes to the same trig point I guess the climb will be about the same