I asked this question last year....there is, but its never been reached.Originally Posted by Deek
I asked this question last year....there is, but its never been reached.
no entry limit for the waltz - 75 for the TWA
When will you be updating the Online Entries?
Just trying to keep on top of my juniors and make sure that they don't miss the deadline with it being pre entry only.
No entry limit? Isn't that a little bit irresponsible? I mean there must be a limit to how many runners you, your organisation and the fragile environment where you hold the race can support. Surely?
Have you run it? The walkers in the last 5K outnumber the AW runners by about 10:1.
Our impact is minimal.
Yes I've run it, it's a beautiful race. But, just because there is no impact currently (though I'm not convinced either that there isn't an impact on the valley traffic!!), but it doesn't mean that there wouldn't be if the numbers got to more than a thousand. Wynn can't say there's NO limit.
Bolox - the route up to Hindscarth is completely trashed and wasn't like that when the race was first run. I would be very surprised if the Waltz wasn't a significant cause.
There are plenty of races out there that don't have limits, because they have assessed that the normal number of entrants cause no significant harm. So it is a bit harsh to say they are irrisponsible for having no limit. That is their judgement call.
There are definately places in the Lakes that have been damaged by fell runners as they are on known race routes that would not be frequented by walkers unless they were well off the normal walking routes.
I'm no expert in matters like this and I wouldn't want to dismiss the effect that Fell Racing can have on the Lakeland Environment. But I would have thought that the race would have only a minor effect on the fells.
Maybe fell runners in general, as it's not the 300 pairs off feet per year running around the course.
There's recces and training etc that in total probably contributes far more than the race.
But I think with the growth in walking there will be 10 walkers at least for every fell runner that goes around the Newlands Valley Horseshoe.
Incidentally, I am aware of quite some issues around Witton Park.
The Northern XC was held at Witton only 6 weeks ago with over 200 runners, followed 2 weeks later by the Lancs Schools XC.
You wouldn't een know they'd been run there now so thankfully it's not runners creating the problem.
What you do see though around the woodland trails is erosion, in the main created by mountain bikes and horses.
This seems to have happened over the last couple of years in the area between the Park and Billinge Woods.
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