lateral ankle sprain (CF?)

[IanFitz]

David

Thanks for going some way to clarifying the facts. That looks like a great CV, it sounds like you have lots of experience and a good reputation so I don’t really understand why you wouldn’t refer people to that; although I do understand, and agree with, your point about sports/massage therapists having a, sometimes deserved, dodgy reputation. I hope you would agree that because of this the good therapists who are well experienced and thought of should be making absolutely certain that they do everything they can to maintain professional standards.

I asked for clarification for a number of reasons and I’d like to be clear that I am not accusing you of any of the below, just wanted to be sure that none of this was going on.

Firstly, as I’m sure you know, Physiotherapy is a protected profession regulated by the HPC- continued misuse of the title can be subject to a £5000 fine. Secondly, I don’t like people hiding behind the anonymity that forum usernames can provide. Thirdly, because I have a vehement dislike of quackery and pseudoscience I will go out of my way to challenge this when I think that it may be occurring.

I hope you can see why people may be dubious on reading your report of a miracle cure when:

• You are effectively anonymous (to those who can’t be bothered to spend 20 seconds on google)
• Appear to falsely claim to be a physio
• You spell ankle wrong
• Use an unheard of diagnostic term to categorise your injury - bad ancle sprain (sic)
• You are promoting a product, presumably your own, whilst not acknowledging this fact
• In your case study you applied ice to the injury which would make it difficult to judge how much impact the magic cream actually had. It‘s not a very rigorous example of science.
• You are really not helping yourself with the snake oil avatar - it could be perceived by the more cynical as being a bit too close to the bone.

I’m quite sure that you are a decent person with good intentions and that your product works for some people, it just that these days there are a lot of charlatans about trying to scam people in all sorts of ways. This make it difficult for people to find the genuine miracle cures from the plethora of misrepresented, over-hyped and over marketed nonsense.

Anyway, I wish you and your customers good wishes, good health and speedy recoveries or all three.

P.S. I was reading the testimonials at http://www.albmaleaf.co.uk/testimonials and you may want to look at, and maybe alter, the testimonial from P.L. the tri-athlete just because, aside from another claim of you providing Physiotherapy, it also says you provided him with ‘warming relief’. Now I may have a rather smutty imagination when I point out this sounds a bit like a rather different sort of massage!

[ratfink]

wow is this gel going to be marketed by acappi nexus??

http://ukbouldering.com/board/index....c,13302.0.html

[IanFitz]

wow is this gel going to be marketed by acappi nexus??

http://ukbouldering.com/board/index....c,13302.0.html

don't start with the Accapi stuff. It is hilarious!!

I actually met the rep at 'the shop' the other day. he was a really decent bloke who was very honest about where accapi were at with their 'science'.

I must admit I was surprised, and actually a bit disappointed as I was looking forwards to some verbal sparring!

[injury advice]

Me & Ian fitz Agree on most things & i Respect good Sports Physiotherapist of which i belive he is one,

The most fundemental thing we agree on is the best possible treatment & care and attention to detail for all our clients.

My name is Dave Jackson i Am a clinical sports therapist from Cumbria With 14 years clinical experience & 10 years experience in teaching Sports & remedial therapy.

I am more than happy to help forum members Talk through any injury worries & direct them to people like Ian or myself for expert & honets treatment. by the way i dont sell snake oil.
Yours Sincerely Dave Jackson

[TurboTom]

Me & Ian fitz Agree on most things & i Respect good Sports Physiotherapist of which i belive he is one,

The most fundemental thing we agree on is the best possible treatment & care and attention to detail for all our clients.

My name is Dave Jackson i Am a clinical sports therapist from Cumbria With 14 years clinical experience & 10 years experience in teaching Sports & remedial therapy.

I am more than happy to help forum members Talk through any injury worries & direct them to people like Ian or myself for expert & honets treatment. by the way i dont sell snake oil.
Yours Sincerely Dave Jackson

Send me some to test it on my ankles and then youll have a forum-worthy testimonial

[Antisocial]

David
[*]You are really not helping yourself with the snake oil avatar - it could be perceived by the more cynical as being a bit too close to the bone.

The snake oil avatar was placed there by the administrators as a warning shot about free advertising. I knew nothing about it at the time and had not read the thread. I think they are tightening up on people perceived to blatantly advertise and take advantage of the forum. This is building a head of steam outside the forum itself.


Before I get abuse back I repeat this had nothing to do with me.

[Dagwood]

Just sprained mine quite badly, went with a right crack. RICE has reduced the pain/swelling a lot over three days though. Does anyone know where to get the Albmaleaf sports injury gel from ?

[Datt]

Just sprained mine quite badly, went with a right crack. RICE has reduced the pain/swelling a lot over three days though. Does anyone know where to get the Albmaleaf sports injury gel from ?

Try PM’ing the formite “Injury Advice”

[genie]

Slipped on some horse poo yesterday whilst out on run felt outside crack.
I am a Sports physio so walked back. Then got the ice packs out, then Rubbed Albmaleaf sports injury gel on This morning a miracle no pain

I went over on my ankle as you described, loud outside crack, i have riced it for nearly three weeks, it still
has a bit of discolouring, I tried to run on it last night, and the pain came back, SO my conclusions are either
your gel really does work miracles, or you are full of that horse poo you slipped on!

[ali mac]

You want to get it properly checked out my daughter plays football at quite a high level and she went over on her ankle and heard a snapping sound.Rice worked to initial take swelling out but 3 months down the line after no real improvement a visit to a private surgeon revealed she had snapped her ankle ligament. She had surgery 3 weeks ago and on friday iam taking her to have har cast taken off and hopefully she can start her rehab.All in all a very frustating time and if you are still in pain after three weeks i would advise a trip to a good physio.