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    Re: Border Collie Pup

    Quote Originally Posted by Longdogs View Post
    Most of the dogs i am talking about die before they ever reach a rescue centre. As far as i know we don't kill excess children that nobody wants, nor do we deliberately breed deformed ones for money.

    Purely in economic terms yes, dog breeders satisfy a demand. If they were manufacturing an inanimate object, fine, but these are sentient beings. It's quite incorrect that people are more capable of looking after a dog if they pay good money for it- simply wrong, there's loads of data to support that. If people were educated about the myths that they believe- we know what we're getting, we can train it how we like, we need this breed to do that job etc etc, there wouldn't be such a market. No doubt i come across as over emotional about it, and probably i am, but i can promise you i haven't made this stuff up. Over the last 10 years or so i've read thousands of journals, research papers and books, and seen hundreds of individual cases, and its quite clear that these myths are not true. They seem common-sensical, just as it seemed quite common-sensical once that you would sail off the end of the world, but they are not true.

    If anyone wants to bite the bullet and face their ingrained prejudice, feel free to PM me and i can direct you to some of the data.

    P.S an anecdote you might like... yesterday i killed a 9 month old Rottweiler with possible orthopaedic disease. The owners weren't willing to pay for either diagnosis or treatment because a new dog is cheaper. If you think that's an unrepresentative tale, come and walk in my shoes for a week.
    Hang on a minute commodity(Longdogs), Stolly is quite right. If we apply your principle on dogs to children, then we'd come to the conclusion that it is evil to want your own children, because thousands of kids around the world are destitue and will die without somebody to bring them up. So, how dare you put your own desires before the world's orphans.( I noticed that at least one of those who agreed with your position have children of their own)

    Some of your other arguments are incorrect as well. There are many cases in the world where parents with mental and physical defects have children knowing full well that their children will inherit the same characteristics. In addition one country has killed children that were beyond the parent's quota.

    So no, your defense is nonsense just like your earlier arguments.
    Last edited by CL; 18-08-2010 at 12:41 PM.

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