Today's Bike Ride

[daz h]

I understand that cyclist have a right to be on the road and that they shouldn’t have to cycle in the gutter BUT if you are talking about safety with car drivers all it does riding two abreast or in a peloton is make car drivers even more impatient and aggressive – ERGO more likely to get knocked off cut up etc etc.
Don’t get me started on horses on roads ..…………

But your looking at it purely from a make life easier for the driver. Thats the problem. Its drivers that need to be patient and not get aggresive. I still say what amazes me is that drivers will follow cyclists, tractors, milk floats etc and get wound up to the point of road rage. Yet they come across a horse and its nice and gentle, take a wide birth, no revs , be quiet, watch the nice horse.
Its that mentality of , oh im gonna be hold up for more than 30 seconds yet with a horse you can usually get be straight away.
Its not the cyclists job to fit in and make the drivers life easier its the drivers who must WAIT until its safe to go by.

Until the average motorist understands that cyclists will always be seen as second rate road users

[daz h]

You get exactly the same mentality when say a driver comes by me and cuts me up then I pass them on the inside at 35mph. They look at you and think Im not having that. A bike PASSING me no way. They go by again and pull in again. You pass them again and they look at you like your a threat, dirt almost.

In France, Holland etc your viewed as someone special because you can actually pedal a bike like that.

Its the British driver, no one beats me when Im in my car attitude.

[Hanneke]

Exactly Daz... and worst is that with their impatience and building road rage they actually endanger other roadusers as well as themselves, for what? The saving of a minute on a journey? Not worth the stress and hassle in my opinion. Then again, I was brought up riding a bike in a country where we all ride a bike, so I suppose that makes drivers more understanding as almost all also ride...

As well as the fact that I live in a rural area with narrow lanes mostly occupied by agricultural vehicles with people in them doing their job, going slowly. You just take it into consideration when planning your journey, sit back, relax and enjoy the scenery (and smell) sitting behind a tractor at 15 mph LOL

You get exactly the same mentality when say a driver comes by me and cuts me up then I pass them on the inside at 35mph. They look at you and think Im not having that. A bike PASSING me no way. They go by again and pull in again. You pass them again and they look at you like your a threat, dirt almost.

In France, Holland etc your viewed as someone special because you can actually pedal a bike like that.

Its the British driver, no one beats me when Im in my car attitude.

[(notsomuchofa)Fellrunner]

Had the whole day booked off ready for a nice long ride & then our washing machine died. By the time new one was chosen, purchased, brought home, plumbed in & the old one was disposed of I was time poor.

Made do with a 2 hour run.

This means I've just posted on the wrong thread.

Sorry.

[nikalas]

I remember riding in Flanders and a tractor pulled over to let me pass... as I rode by I said thank-you, probably with a look of disbelief on my face, and he said "Here, you are King.".....

Back to a group riding two abreast... it's far safer for the riders that way as it forces cars to pass wide... the group should be viewed as a "single vehicle". Well drilled groups will string out to let cars by but drivers just have to have a bit of patience... is anything really that urgent?

[daz h]

I remember riding in Flanders and a tractor pulled over to let me pass... as I rode by I said thank-you, probably with a look of disbelief on my face, and he said "Here, you are King.".....

Back to a group riding two abreast... it's far safer for the riders that way as it forces cars to pass wide... the group should be viewed as a "single vehicle". Well drilled groups will string out to let cars by but drivers just have to have a bit of patience... is anything really that urgent?

That's just quality isn't it.
The tractor driver in Flanders . I must admit I followed a tractor driver dropping down from crich last year in the summer and he pulled over and gave me a thumbs up as I passed by.

You got me thinking about the pave now.

[daz h]

Ran with the dog tonight and forty minutes on the rollers. A double spin last night with some fantastic Lycra on show although I felt a bit odd being the only guy there again with shaven legs.
Just pumped my tyres up as I'm planning a good ride tomorrow.

[emmilou]

Yet they come across a horse and its nice and gentle, take a wide birth, no revs , be quiet, watch the nice horse.

Sadly this is far from the case Darren, whilst you and the majority of riders pass horses with a wide berth etc there are certainly those that in the same way skim by cyclists do exactly the same to people on horse back. The consequences are pretty dire here too.

We can apply it to 101 situtions whilst on the road, how many times do you hear people moan about being behind a learner driver for example, regardless of the fact they are the ones doing the speed limit, it is simply a case of wanting to get somewhere quicker than allowing yourself time for, we've all been guilty of that I suppose but on the whole the majority of us do give a sh*t about other peoples (and our owns) saftey but there will always be those that don't

[daz h]

I've never understood women on horses. They wave but they don't talk.

And I never understand how you tell what model of horse they have or the size


Is it likes bikes. Are you on a size 53 palamino mrs

[emmilou]

I've never understood women on horses. They wave but they don't talk.

And I never understand how you tell what model of horse they have or the size


Is it likes bikes. Are you on a size 53 palamino mrs

sommert like that