Originally Posted by Skarsnik
I agree with you Skarsnik. Suarez is a great buy, Torres is a great sale for the money with his injury record. Carroll shouldn't take long to settle so Dalglish has done some good business there!
I agree with you Skarsnik. Suarez is a great buy, Torres is a great sale for the money with his injury record. Carroll shouldn't take long to settle so Dalglish has done some good business there!
I disagree. I think Carrol could be a top player.
Only could.
United signed rooney for 25 million, he had already scored many goals at international level and played almost twice as many games in the premiership. There was little risk.
I rate Carrol, big, good on the floor, fit, but, 35 million for unproven talent, Ronaldo was 80 million for guarenteed 25-40 goals a season plus many assists. To be honest that's now looking a steal.
I think Chelsea also got a very good price for Torres. Class player but definate blot on his reputation that he hasn't shown up for months. Despite wanting to leave Ronaldo's performances remained top draw for us, despite what people said. He produced.
I agree with you on Carrol. £35 million is a huge amount of money for somebody who has shown a lot of promise but is not the finished article. I bet this time last year he was only worth about £3 million. The only bad thing for Newcastle is it came too late for them to line up a replacement but I still don't think they'll go down. So in the summer they'll have the money to buy two or three decent players and be a stronger team for it.
I think £50 million for Torres is way too much as well. He is highly injury prone these days and hasn't done it at international level. He was poor at the World Cup and the Euro Championships in 2008.
(I think £50 million for Torres is way too much as well. He is highly injury prone these days and hasn't done it at international level. He was poor at the World Cup and the Euro Championships in 2008.[/QUOTE]
Time will tell re how injury prone Torres is, I hope its a great buy along with Luis and although too late to change the premiereship outcome this year will put us back on terms with the Mancs for next year. But Carrol is carrying an injury at present and £5m is a lot to spend on an injured player who cant possibly have passed a medical?
Here we are - as soon as the transfer window shuts Rooney starts scoring - is this to spite Sir Alex or what?
And all that dosh for Torres and he's not even on the bench!
35 million for a player who's latest injury is due to falling off a bar stool in a casino! alledgedly....
Big week, City drop points and Red Nev calls it a day..
Loving the comments by Scousers in 606...'Least respected player in football'...so you've Lee Hughes who killed someone, Tevez Rooney et al who threaten to leave to get more money, players who dive, the Terry's ragging his team mates missus/ex-missus..yet its a player who played for one club and had the audacity to wind up opposition fans and give back some abuse...
''de bestest fans in der world' show their true colours again..can give it out but give it back and their trade mark sense of humour vanishes...
Class player, role model for kids, talent wise the weakest of the 92 generation, yet still had the trophy haul through hard work. although admittedly one of his strategies to make up for his lack of talent was continually claiming for offside...
Last edited by IainR; 03-02-2011 at 11:59 AM.
and these are the same "so called fans" killed all those juventus supporters and blamed it on the chelsea head hunters, sing Munich 58 and trash old trafford every year, almost killed a waiter the last time they were in the European cup final, sprayed an aerosol in clayton blackmore face as he got of the team bus and not lets forget their caveman like behaviour when they tried to overturn alan smiths ambulance when he suffered that horrific injury at anfield. compared to these animals i think red nev is a fine upstanding human being.
I’m sorry, that was a rude post that came out ruder than intended.
I do include myself in the ‘infantile idiots’ cos I spent a good part of my first thirty years following Blackburn. I know what I was like and what most of the people around me at Ewood and other grounds were like: moaning, prone to childish tantrums and spoiled by success - and that’s part of the reason I dumped Rovers and football in general.
I was appalled by the abuse Shearer came in for when he returned to Ewood in the years after he left for Newcastle. What a totally absurd reaction - the sort of thing a four-year-old should be ashamed of. Also the Ewood ‘faithful’ seemed to think they deserved success every season after the amazing achievement of 1995 - and must have been the biggest bunch of moaners of any fans in the league.
And then it got worse: top-level football started to become the ridiculous circus that it is now, and I thought to myself, ‘What am I doing investing emotional attachment and money in something over which I have no control and that constantly gets less likeable and treats me as a ‘fan’ worse and worse?’
You don’t need me to list all the ways that the game has been corrupted, spoiled and exploited in the last 15-20 years. There is a point where something simply stops being what it was: at that point you can rightly say, I don’t recognise this as what I loved, and get rid.
People compare following a team to a girlfriend or wife - but it’s more like a family member cos you can‘t choose them (although people do seem to choose teams these days …). In the case of football, an abusive family member with severe behavioural problems who treats you like sh * t yet demands total adoration - and money - at all times.
Anyone who puts up with that for any length of time is a sap, and that’s what being a football fan began to feel like to me - being a sap, a mug. I’m not going to give respect, support and money to something as dysfunctional and distant from me as top-level football - it’s totally pointless.
Lower league might be a bit different - but even there, the behaviour of players and fans alike can still be infantile and disgusting, in my opinion.
The only sensible thing to do was to switch my attention and energy to my other favourite team sports, sports that retained some sort of integrity, honour and sportsmanship - namely rugby and cricket.
Anyway, you probably really don’t give a monkey’s about any of that, but I just thought I‘d try to explain my post.
Last edited by ZootHornRollo; 21-02-2011 at 05:06 PM.
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