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    Re: Letter to the FRA Chairman

    Quote Originally Posted by Malky View Post
    ..I think the committee's time has better uses.
    Hmmm, like forming a sub-committee and sending them on a disaffiliation fact-finding mission that didn't even consult WFRA or SHRA...

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    Re: Letter to the FRA Chairman

    Yes, funny that. Why didn't they?

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    Re: Letter to the FRA Chairman

    Hi Trundler,

    I certainly agree with you there, they should have consulted with both of us, and NIMRA as well.

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    Re: Letter to the FRA Chairman

    Quote Originally Posted by Malky View Post
    Hi Trundler,

    I certainly agree with you there, they should have consulted with both of us, and NIMRA as well.
    Are you sure? - because, according to my reckoning, at least two of the committee members are also members of the SHR, and at least two are members of WFRA - and pretty big cheeses in the WFRA at that!! Considering that, it's hard to believe that they didn't discuss this topic?

    I suppose they might have been worried about making the same mistakes …

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshire Thug View Post
    Are you sure? - because, according to my reckoning, at least two of the committee members are also members of the SHR, and at least two are members of WFRA - and pretty big cheeses in the WFRA at that!! Considering that, it's hard to believe that they didn't discuss this topic?

    I suppose they might have been worried about making the same mistakes …
    YT,

    Re WFRA consultation you seem to have overlooked the following posts from Ross Powell (WFRA Chairman & FRA Committee member):

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    I can confirm that the WFRA were not consulted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross View Post
    I am a member rep on the FRA Committee. However, whilst I can explain the WFRA position at FRA Committee meetings, if asked, the WFRA was not contacted by any member of the subcommittee for further information.
    What mistakes? Welsh Harrier seems quite happy with the situation and 80% of race organisers in Wales choose to register/insure their races with WFRA rather than Welsh Athletics/UKA! Given the choice Welsh organisers have shown what they think of the way UKA treated them a couple of years ago!

    Quote Originally Posted by Welsh Harrier View Post
    WFRA now organises over 80% of fell races in Wales with independently organised insurance. WFRA has a thriving membership with its own championship programme and it's been working very well for nearly three years. Welsh Athletics continues to send junior and senior teams to Knockdu etc and to quote the sub-committe report ' International considerations should not carry any weight in the arguments aboit disaffiliation.'

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    YT, there is no doubt the full committee would have been well aware of how the celtic nations had resolved their issues. The sub committee either:
    1. Forgot to ask
    2. Decided that the celtic solution was not relevant
    3. Were directed not to ask

    Are there any other possibilities?

    The vast majority of fell runners in Wales seem to be very happily pursuing their sport now, with increased numbers seen in races in South Wales. Could I recommend that EFRA makes the same mistake?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeze View Post
    YT, there is no doubt the full committee would have been well aware of how the celtic nations had resolved their issues. The sub committee either:
    1. Forgot to ask
    2. Decided that the celtic solution was not relevant
    3. Were directed not to ask

    Are there any other possibilities?

    The vast majority of fell runners in Wales seem to be very happily pursuing their sport now, with increased numbers seen in races in South Wales. Could I recommend that EFRA makes the same mistake?!

    are there any other possibilities
    i thought we had dispensed with the sniping
    what do you mean any other possibilities
    explain ??????

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    Sorry Daz, that was not meant to be read as a sniping comment. I was genuinely offering the opportunity to any posters from the subcommittee to correct me if I had overlooked the actual reason why the celtic solutions were not considered. I thought it over and couldn't come up with any myself but I freely admit that no-one has all the answers in any given situation.

    The beauty of a forum is that by encouraging others to respond, one's own potentially blinkered view of something can be enlightened. I learn lots by listening to honestly offered views such as yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeze View Post
    Sorry Daz, that was not meant to be read as a sniping comment. I was genuinely offering the opportunity to any posters from the subcommittee to correct me if I had overlooked the actual reason why the celtic solutions were not considered. I thought it over and couldn't come up with any myself but I freely admit that no-one has all the answers in any given situation.

    The beauty of a forum is that by encouraging others to respond, one's own potentially blinkered view of something can be enlightened. I learn lots by listening to honestly offered views such as yours.
    yes , okay wheeze i appreciate your answer there mate, im a very diplomatic person , no need to say sorry , phew all this commitee, ballot, sub commitee, buisness has i think become very complicated to the point where i think the commitee could possibly start tiring of people asking why didnt they do this and why didnt they do that etc etc.
    i just think they must be getting fed up of some of the comments that have flown about on here
    timewise i think they have done very well, there was loads of pressure from every corner of the fellrunning globe to dissafiliate instantly, i personally feel they have handled it very well. but then again im one of lifes to short people.

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    Re: Letter to the FRA Chairman

    sorry wheeze i meant to ask you this question about size

    can you tell me how many members the welsh and scottish have
    just something im thinking of

    also with regards to there own insurance , how much ????????

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