Peris Horseshoe

[IainR]

[QUOTE=Mary;431754]

I don't know I enjoyed it, its just good fun.

I don't think it should have been shortened, I know others do, and don't think it would have been in any other part of the UK bar Wales and to be honest the lack of proper fell races in Wales explains the general poor ability here. The lakes runners would have just sucked it and coped for sure. Running through the half you could see that people had grouped to the few who knew the way or could navigate.

Firstly I think everyone should respect the decision of those who take on the responsibility of orgnasing races. If you don't like it offer to organise the race or a new one yourself. Look forward to a Llanberis, Rydd Du traverse in the calandar next year Iain.
There seems to be a lot of things mixed up here. One of the reasons for my appalling time was I came of the last top completely wrong, panic sat down and calmed down for 5 minutes and added a mile to ther route. Shaken yes but never really in danger. Partly tiredness, partly rushing trying to shake off someone who could not map read behind. Llewydd would be different. A twisted ankle and in the wet you would be hard pressed to get down without the mountain rescue. Map reading wouldn't help you.
My understnading is that the Welsh1000s is flagged because of the landowners so may be we should do some PR with them. The Rhinogs went by the board because the orgnaisation wasnot good. The WFRA (i.e. us) might have stepped in earlier and helped save it.
More long races in wales would be great but that needs more organisers.

TBH I will when i have time..but whilst I'm fit I'll race. Llanberis Rhydd traverse sounds brilliant.......one we may hold an informal race next year on the course, a hush hush race to get feedback...the other I don't know.

the 1000m peaks is flagged for access but then the additional points are safety points, almost no nav on it now.

I find the attitude that you can't have an opinion rather strange though. You pay to race, therefore you can say what you feel. I said I understood, just disagreed. I'm not sure that's so out of order.

Also seems to missed fell running is about racers, fields in wales are pityifully weak compared to other areas so I'll keep doing the odd race here and mainly race in the Lakes, yorkshire et al where the competition is. we need to encourage people to race, and proper races, the only competitive races we really have are the tuesday nighters. the rest the fields are too sparse, you don't get the stride for stride battles you have in the lakes or yorkshire/lancashire/peak, it just makes you run so much harder. I'm not saying uncompetitive as I win, I rarely do, but I can turn up, say '3rd today' and run around with no chance of catching 2nd and no chance of 4th catching me unless i blow. Doesn't bring you on the same.

One of the great runners of Eryri used to say whenever he felt cocky he'd leave North Wales and race elsewhere to get put in his place, so its obviously not a new view I have.

re getting lost of MC? Did you follow the direction of the marshall....if so that could be why..she was pointing too far right as you look down, so a number of people dropped into the wrong valley