Tour de Helvellyn

[Hank]

10m in 3hr is a possibility if its deep powder snow.

Definitely, but if it's bad enough for 3 hours, then 12 hours for the whole thing is looking very tough! It's got to be the quickest quarter of the route (just a smidge more than). The worst sections, I reckon, will be up to and down from Sticks Pass and Grisedale Tarn, so time will almost certainly be lost there. If the outward journey to Patterdale takes three hours, I guess it's safe to assume the return journey to Askham will take more (more knackered and more climb).

[old un]

I think you're right there hank. If we go at 8am toreador may have ploughed a route through for us :-)

[Toreador]

Then when you've overtaken you can do the same for us up to Grisedale Tarn

Some interesting looking conditions:
http://mark-mountainjourneys.blogspo...red-fells.html

[old un]

i'd be happy to toreador,although overtaking isnt a word often used with me :w00t:

[that_fjell_guy]

I'm now distinctly dissapointed I didnt go for this!! Hope you all have fun tho!! I'll think of you'll while I'm working the over-time!

[Splatcher]

The main question I've got now is what to wear on my feet. They (the feet) are telling me they've had about enough of my Mudclaws for the time being, so I'd rather wear Roclites, with my Microspikes in case of snow or ice. But... that would be daft if there's a lot of snow cover, as Mudclaws would be faster. So, if it's only the 2 passes that have snow, I think I'll go for the Roclites, but if there's more general snow cover I'll wear my Mudclaws & take the pain. So how low down is the snow?

[Hank]

The main question I've got now is what to wear on my feet. They (the feet) are telling me they've had about enough of my Mudclaws for the time being, so I'd rather wear Roclites, with my Microspikes in case of snow or ice. But... that would be daft if there's a lot of snow cover, as Mudclaws would be faster. So, if it's only the 2 passes that have snow, I think I'll go for the Roclites, but if there's more general snow cover I'll wear my Mudclaws & take the pain. So how low down is the snow?

About 500m at the moment with a few showers forecast to lower levels in the next 48 hours, but not a significant amount. I think it'll be the upper sections of Sticks Gill east and west, the climb up from Dunmail and the upper section of the descent to Grisedale that will be under snow. That said, I'm Mudclaws all the way.

[Toreador]

The met office are still talking about a low risk of heavy snow for the Lakes tonight (depends on which direction to low pressure goes).
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...-and-unsettled

I'll be wearing Mudclaws as they're the only ones with a low enough heel to stop my Achilles becoming tender after such a long run.

And I think we're sticking with a 7am start. Even if the going is good it'll force me to take things easy for the first 10 miles - I find it hard to stop myself going too quickly at the beginning of a race, which I then regret at the end

[Baggins]

The snow from last week has turned to neve now covered by fresh deep powder in places but where the neve is uncovered microspikes will be handy

[old un]

I'm pondering the same dilema ? Mudclaws and sealskinz or roclites and wool sock ? There seems a bit of rd on the map (I havent been on a lot of the route ) probably use roclites as not used to running that far in mudclaws. Although both will get a ride to askham. Do kathoolas work ok on mudclaws ? as I'm guessing
Ice may play a part if the cold forcast is right .