Sounds good! All aim to be at Dunmail by 0830 and we'll work it out from there.Originally Posted by Clive
It's been a clear afternoon in Kendal and I reckon out in the hills it'd be after 1700 before you'd need a headtorch, so all being well it'll only be the last hill or two where we'll need them (presuming something like 8h30m for the lot, which would be pretty good going with snow on the ground - I wouldn't be surprised if we're out longer though).
Hi all,
Looking forward to this, what kind of time are we looking at for both legs?
Just thinking about how much food and water to carry.
See above. We posted at pretty much the same time! 8h30m would be a very steady BG pace, so that seems reasonable, but snow/ice can really slow things up.
Evening all.
I'm still waiting to hear from Keswicksimon. He seemed interested but is currently abroad (I think). I'm sure he'll drop into this thread when he lands back. If he brings his car we may be able to leave a car at Threlkeld should anyone want to leave some food / drink etc and it may make things easier at Dunmail. We can always stash some food & drink in a binliner and leave it near the cricket club to save a bit of weight?
Is it true that if you're driving you get a piggy-back up Fairfield? :thumbup:
Hi Clive
I'll let you know within the next couple of days, I'm trying to talk a friend into coming too.
Thanks, Linda
Cheers Hank,
Will crampons/axe be needed? How much snow/ice is left up there?
I'd bring along Microspikes or some kind of running crampon if you've got them, though I'm sure you'll be fine without as we'll go steady and stick together. Also, it could well be that what snow there is (and it's not loads) thaws and goes before Friday. The forecast is currently for a rise in temperature Tuesday and Wednesday, cooling down again significantly on Thursday with some snow showers and staying cold on Friday... freezing level around 500m, so that's 6+ hours in sub-zero temperatures and a big wind chill. I'd ditch the axe, but bring the thermals!
Ok,cheers again.
Latest: 23/01/2012 16:57 FELLTOP CONDITIONS REPORT from Helvellyn at 1230pm on Monday 23rd January 2012. Fresh snow is lying on the fells above 600m. The depth increases with altitude to around 20cm of fresh snow in drifts and hollows, with the largest buildups on northeast through to southeast facing slopes and gullies. Above 750m, standing water and old snow has refrozen, creating very slippery conditions especially where the ice is hidden under loose fresh snow. The final exit ramps from Striding Edge and Swirral Edge have steep unavoidable sections of snow and ice and an ice axe and crampons are essential for safe negotiation of these sections. The top of the exit from Striding Edge is guarded by an almost vertical section of snow and ice topped by a small cornice and this should only be tackled by the experienced. Small cornices remain above some eastern facing slopes and gullies, so please keep back from the edge. Full winter clothing and footwear are required for anyone venturing out on the high fells. PLEASE NOTE: To avoid damage to fragile and nationally important habitats, winter climbers are advised to wait until routes are in full winter condition before attempting them. Please avoid the temptation to climb on routes whilst there is chance of damaging the vegetation cover, as the turf under the snowpack is unfrozen. Summit readings from Helvellyn today at 1230pm. Temperature: minus 1.7 C. Wind chill: minus 9.5 C. Max wind speed: 23.1 mph. Average wind speed: 20.3 mph
OK cheers Linda.
There's quite a few Tod Harriers going up Friday, sadly I can't persuade them for a nice day out!
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