Pretty sure all 3 of CVFR junior races will be doing the same. Thats sounding like a decent series. Small juniors just joining the sport dont always want to a) travel long distances to championship races and b) get their arses kicked when they are there so good to have smaller low key local races to put into a series.Originally Posted by Seymour Hills
Last edited by Clash City Rocker; 13-10-2012 at 07:37 PM.
Are you on the Landlords tonight Al? Spelling's a bit all over the shop
KCAC usuallu use 14 races 7 FRA, 7 BOFRA, we do under 9, under 12 etc for our championships. People can run against different people, and at times there are 2 people with maximum points for that race. You need 8 scoring races, so it shouldn't be a dead heat very easily. No-one really complains and we can choose a nice variety of races. The age group thing does not really cause us an issue.
As a club we support many local races (Ilkley, Pendle, all the Penistone hill junior races, hellifield etc) but do double up races so adult championships and junior championships coincide where possible if the junior race is good. We did make the mistake though of including Malham BOFRA though......
Malham isn't a BOFRA organised race though the details are on the BOFRA calendar. From the FAQ on the BOFRA site: "Non-championship races are included in the calendar to provide members with details of other traditional fell races in the country..." If you're putting a mixed FRA/BOFRA junior series together you're best sticking to BOFRA championship races and avoiding Hebden, Kilnsey and other non championship races where there have been issues with results, entry limits, changed times etc. They are great traditional races though, well worth running as a senior or a junior, and BOFRA, like the Kendal Winter League, would in general benefit from a more varied club entry. The junior races tend to be dominated by entries from Wharfedale, Helm Hill, and KCAC.
Only race with issues results wise KCAC has ever had is Malham, it was put back in this year, slight oversight by us as we have had problems in the past. All other races from BOFRA even if not championships have been fine. This year BOFRA ones used for our championships were Kettlewell, Cracoe, Cowling, Malham, Bradley, Burnsall and Embsay. All others are ace for results. I think most are championship apart from Bradley which is a club favourite and right on our door step!! This year especially KCAC has really tried with Bofra and alot of ours have 'done loads!!' There have been very few complaints if any about any junior races, just shows how good most actually are!!
Its an eyesight thing but I've corrected it now. Bad spellings a pet hate of mine.Are you on the Landlords tonight Al? Spelling's a bit all over the shop
Beer Goggles?
Incidentally, bad spelling is a pet hate of mine as well! :wink:
I'm with CCR on this one. Clayton juniors haven't been around for very long but we've always tried to emphasise participation and commitment, trusting that performance will follow (provided that we, as coaches, do our job properly).
I've not bothered pushing the champs races unless they happen to be local. I wouldn't travel any great distance just to get my butt kicked so it's unreasonable to encourage others to do so; the end result is just demoralising and counter productive. We didn't bother publicising the english schools event for the same reason (plus the fact that it was being held at the arse end of nowhere didn't help!).
Another issue for us is that we are not just a fellrunning club and, even if we were, I'd encourage junior runners to broaden their scope anyway.We target XC and local park races as well, in an effort to emphasise speed & technique as well as hills and rough terrain.
However, I will be looking at the BOFRA events for next year. If I can work out how to incorporate them into our club champs then I will do, if not then we can still promote a few of them if they're not too far away. An issue for us is that we have a training session on a Saturday so everybody misses a session every time we race instead (even if they're not attending the race themselves). We need to work out how to do an outdoor evening session over the winter; headtorches all round I think!
As an aside; I can recommend parkrun as an excellent training tool. We've seen several of our junior really progress for having done parkrun over the summer.
Unlike the rest of the club who seem to have been around for a very, very long time
You have to consider that as it is English Schools many kids are taking part that have never done a fell race before. Westholme in Blackburn have 2 or 3 fell runners, another 2 or 3 XC runners and have won the overall title twice in the 5 years of the event and had several individual champs.
2 athletes quite "close" to CLEM both came away with ESF Titles this year - because they were there - and of course they ae pretty decent athletes.
Although the quality at the front end can be International level, the depth of the event due to non-runners taking part means that it is a great event for all to attend.
I left home in Blackburn and got to Cockermouth in 1 hour 25 so it's not that far.
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