Hmmmphhhh!! Well done Longdogs-the only record I have ever held has been smashed! But given it is by you, of true Goddess status in fell running circles, I absolutely don't mind!!!! It is a great route isn't it and I have Tony (Mountain Man) to blame for getting me into this whole fell running lark a few years ago! I doubt I'll ever match your time so a sincere well done! Rachel x