Giro

[Stagger]

Is there a specific Giro website?
I've googled a few times and just keep coming up with TV Channel Newspaper reviews.

It was live on Eurosport Richard.

[Richard Head]

Team time trial tomorrow then on Monday it will be interesting to see how Cav's climbing legs are with a 2nd and a 3rd Cat climb in the last 70K

[PeteS]

Chapeau, Cav! ( or should that be capello?)

[biara]

I appreciate why the general UK press are obsessed with Wiggins (by which I mean that they know nothing about cycling and that Wiggins is overrated over here) and maybe he can win it, maybe, but in the last 16 years an Italian has won it 13 times (4 riders twice and 5 once) and that isn't just by chance. And Nibali hasn't won a Giro yet.

Since the Spanish got their act together in 2000 they have won 9 of the last 13 Vuelta (of which Heras won 3 and Contador 2).

I don't think I was born when a Frenchman last won the Tour!

That would make you less than 28!! You appear to have forgotten Bernard Hinault (who 'only' won it 5 times, the last one in 1985)

[Graham Breeze]

That would make you less than 28!! You appear to have forgotten Bernard Hinault (who 'only' won it 5 times, the last one in 1985)

Correct. I am only 27.

Hinault did not "win" it in 1985 but he was gifted it through team orders because LeMond (they were both riding for La Vie Claire) was told to wait for him on Stage 17 by Koechli the LVC Team Director.

But in the world of realpolitik if you are American riding for a French team with a French leader seeking his 5th win..hey!

" one of the greatest injustices in the history of sport was done to LeMond that day" Bill McGann The Story of the Tour de France.

But nothing new. Froome should have won the 2012 Tour, Ulrich propped up Riis in 1996 (both with Telekom) and so on.

[nikalas]

(by which I mean that they know nothing about cycling and that Wiggins is overrated over here)!

You really do come across as a smug, backwards looking and condescending so and so sometimes... without listing his entire palmares.. multiple Olympic gold medallist on the track, Olympic Gold TT and TDF for starters... lets get behind our champions. The "elan" you're so fond of in past Grand Tour winners was more down to syringes, maybe Le Mond aside, than anything else. If he wins the Giro he will be a great... Chapeau to Cav today.

[biara]

Correct. I am only 27.

Hinault did not "win" it in 1985 but he was gifted it through team orders because LeMond (they were both riding for La Vie Claire) was told to wait for him on Stage 17 by Koechli the LVC Team Director.

But in the world of realpolitik if you are American riding for a French team with a French leader seeking his 5th win..hey!

" one of the greatest injustices in the history of sport was done to LeMond that day" Bill McGann The Story of the Tour de France.

Was he 'gifted' it on each of the other 4 occasions as well?? He must havedeserved at least 1......

[Graham Breeze]

You really do come across as a smug, backwards looking and condescending so and so sometimes... without listing his entire palmares.. multiple Olympic gold medallist on the track, Olympic Gold TT and TDF for starters... lets get behind our champions. The "elan" you're so fond of in past Grand Tour winners was more down to syringes, maybe Le Mond aside, than anything else. If he wins the Giro he will be a great... Chapeau to Cav today.

I note you deliberately left out my words "the general UK press" in your desire to score a point ie I was not writing about Rouleur.

I prefer a great rider, of any nationality, to win the Grand Tours, not someone who happens to be British, unpopular though that view may be to readers of the Daily Mail.

If Wiggins does win the Giro he will not be "great" in the sense that eg Hinault is "great" with 5 wins in the Tour, 3 in the Giro and 2 in the Vuelta plus odd little things like Paris-Roubaix, but that opinion will not sell newspapers in Britain; so roll out the Union Jack.

[Stagger]

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Since the Spanish got their act together in 2000 they have won 9 of the last 13 Vuelta (of which Heras won 3 and Contador 2).

Or just had the right stuff to perform????????????????????????????????/
Spanish the new Russia at drug cheating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Deadlegs]

I dunno, Russia are holding their own.