BGR in more than 24 hours?

[old un]

Isn't it all about a good long day in the hills? Theres rules what we all know about it we want the status etc but isn't the essence being lost, and if the time doesnt matter on Claires round for example then surely her 3 day round should count as well? A completion especially in crap weather must be real achievement but it is a completion not what bob graham set off to do and what we're looking to emulate? If your changing the time why not change the route to? Just my pennies worth

[that_fjell_guy]

So I'm wrong on two counts! Bob Graham of course did do it inside the 24 hrs to set the tops completed within 24 hours record. AND as Mr1470/Stagger point out its the Bob Graham 24 HOUR CLUB! My mind is now clarified on the subject...I think!?

[GreenFlash]

Plenty of people do fail, look at Nicky Spinks? How many failed rounds has she had? Was it 6 for the Bob, 1 for the Paddy, 1 for the Rigby?.. I think the Ramsay went in 1.. so 8 failed rounds and is now one of the greats of long distance fell running.

Erm, I think you're confusing Nicky with another Penistone runner here, Iain; Nicky did the BG first time - see http://www.runbg.co.uk/Bob%20Graham.htm - though you're right her first completion of the Paddy was outside the 24 hours ... which, I agree, certainly supports your broader point that every round, 'successful' or not, is a learning experience.

[Richard Head]

So I'm wrong on two counts! Bob Graham of course did do it inside the 24 hrs

He did it in less than 24 hours but was his route not slightly different to today's route?

[andygib1982]

He did it in less than 24 hours but was his route not slightly different to today's route?

yes it was different

Alan Heaton became the first to repeat and better Graham's round in 1960, though the tops Heaton chose were not the same as Graham had visited. Graham included:

High White Stones
Hanging Knotts
Looking Stead
High Snab Bank

These were replaced by:

Whiteside
Helvellyn Lower Man
Ill Crag
Broad Crag

[Richard Head]

yes it was different

Alan Heaton became the first to repeat and better Graham's round in 1960, though the tops Heaton chose were not the same as Graham had visited. Graham included:

High White Stones
Hanging Knotts
Looking Stead
High Snab Bank

These were replaced by:

Whiteside
Helvellyn Lower Man
Ill Crag
Broad Crag

Should it not be the Alan Heaton Round then?

[Bob]

Should it not be the Alan Heaton Round then?

What's always confused me is how do you get from Raise to Helvellyn without going over White Side and Helvellyn Lower Man?

[Bob the Dog]

As someone still bearing the scars (well bruised toe and numerous areas of chaffing) of my 25+ hour anticlockwise rain and clag infested jaunt at the weekend I have to say that I am feeling surprisingly un-disappointed with life and that was after being almost an hour up on a 23 hour schedule at one point. Okay so no place at the dinner table in October and no 4 UTMB points but the adventure of the day and the fantastic support both from pacers and navigators and my wonderful family at the handover points were what i shall ultimately look back on and cherish with the fondest of memories.

The rules of admission are fiendishly simple and should stay that way. If at any point in the future I feel the urge to join the club than I shall just have to hoof it back down to the Lakes from Bonnie Scotland and try again. I am after all a mere humble runner with much to be humble about.:wink:

[IainR]

Erm, I think you're confusing Nicky with another Penistone runner here, Iain; Nicky did the BG first time - see http://www.runbg.co.uk/Bob%20Graham.htm - though you're right her first completion of the Paddy was outside the 24 hours ... which, I agree, certainly supports your broader point that every round, 'successful' or not, is a learning experience.

Really? I was sure Nicky had 5 or 6 attempts at the BGR?

Can't see any mention so maybe I'm confusing someone else...

Actually think I confused Nicky and Bob.. not sure how I did that..

[blencathrafrommykitchen]

Personally I wouldn't set off if the forecast was really bad, as, for me, a big part of it is to enjoy a great day out, not just complete a physical challenge. While I have plenty of respect for those who complete it in bad conditions, that's not what it's about for me.

The issue of putting your pacers out in terms of them travelling a long way etc etc is a real balancing act. The wish to avoid making complex logistical plans that are subsequently cancelled is why my running partner and I have tried not to over-organise our PB and CR attempts... but the flip side is that this risks being under-supported!!

Which is a good link into asking if anyone fancies a trip to Glen Nevis on 15/16 June to help out with our CR attempt - your support would be very welcome... but on the understanding that if the forecast is rubbish we won't go!!! Transport from Penrith and free performance-related beer included!