New safety rules

[fozzy]

Two more people who've actually marshalled in races on the Turner Landscape thread explaining why the rules about having numbers pinned, unfolded to chests/fronts of vests is much easier to read than folded numbers on shorts.

I see I've opened the can of worms on metric again. It's boring. We are a metric country. Time to stop using archaic measurements. Worst thing we ever did was leave road signs in miles. If they'd been in km, then no-one would use imperial measurements any more at all.

If you want to know why metric is important, then have a look at an OS map or Harvey's Map or any other form of map. Km grid squares with contours in metres. Unless you have a map from before the early 1970s, which might be imperial. In which case, it'll be so out of date it's useless anyway. Time to enter the 20th (never mind 21st) century.

And if you absolutely have to know in imperial units, and you can't do 1km is approximately 2/3 of a mile, then I worry for the future...

[IainR]

Whats the speed limit?

We aren't in a metic country.. we have a unique version of both.. Europe is metric.. Yanks Imperial.. we understand both systems.. well my generation does..

Very very strange decision by the FRA on that but you get the feeling GB does such things just to rile people.. as in reality it doesn't change anything.. its like a new boss changing structures just so they have their handprint on it.... ego driven changes.. does it really make it any worse to have 10km/6.21 miles..

And no.. 1 k is 0.621 of a mile.. not .667 makes a fair difference..

And yes I've marshalled.. yes numbers are often hidden.. normally by a jacket.. better if its on shorts many times TBH.

[Stagger]

Whats the speed limit?

We aren't in a metic country.. we have a unique version of both.. Europe is metric.. Yanks Imperial.. we understand both systems.. well my generation does..

Very very strange decision by the FRA on that but you get the feeling GB does such things just to rile people.. as in reality it doesn't change anything.. its like a new boss changing structures just so they have their handprint on it.... ego driven changes.. does it really make it any worse to have 10km/6.21 miles..

And no.. 1 k is 0.621 of a mile.. not .667 makes a fair difference..

And yes I've marshalled.. yes numbers are often hidden.. normally by a jacket.. better if its on shorts many times TBH.

First Class reply Iain. Fully agree.:thumbup:

[Stolly]

Sod kilometres for a game of soldiers. And numbers folded pinned to shorts is absolutely the best if you can't have dibbers. I don't think I've ever pinned a number to my running top and I'm damned if I'm starting now

[Witton Park]

Just wondered if anyone ever goes out with a PLB (Personal Locator Beacon)?
I've had some involvement with them in a marine environment and only found out recently that the UK changed the law last year so that they could be used for land based activities.
They're not cheap, but at about the same price as a Suunto watch, could be a life-saver.

[Stolly]

Nope but I wear a suunto. I'm at BNG SE 19000 45500 right now

[Leeds Rhino]

It will always be miles for me ,not bloody kilometres

[fozzy]

Whats the speed limit?

32.2km/h in residential areas with traffic calming
48.3km/h in a built-up urban area
64.4km/h or 80.5 km/h in non-urban areas with speed limits or faster urban roads and trunk roads
96.6km/h on single carriageway roads subject to national speed limit regulations
112.7km/h on dual carriageways and motorways subject to national speed limit regulations.

If we went properly metric, these would obviously become 30, 50, 65, 80, 100 and 110km/h. Although I think there may be room for a 130km/h limit on motorways, like in France. I'd have to see whether the reduction in fuel economy would cost more than the boost at being able to travel faster.

Europe is metric.

Last time I checked, we were part of Europe. If we stopped pussy-footing around and joined the EU properly with the Euro, rather than being pig-headed ignoramuses who fear all outside influences and immigrants, then we might feel like part of Europe.

as in reality it doesn't change anything..

Nope, which is why the whinging was just that. Changing how we write the distances doesn't change the races.

And no.. 1 k is 0.621 of a mile.. not .667 makes a fair difference..

Fair point, but given that a lot of fell races are inaccurately measured (because it's not always straightforward), then does it matter that much for a rough guess. If you want to be more accurate, use the km measurements, as they are on the maps anyway.

yes numbers are often hidden.. normally by a jacket.. better if its on shorts many times TBH.

Yes, so competitors should have to clearly display their numbers, which is what the new rules are designed to do. I can quite clearly see why reading a number on a leg can be difficult given that when you're running the leg is in constant motion. If the number is on the front of the torso, under a jacket, at least all the runner has to do is lift up their jacket to display the number. It won't be moving as much as a small, folded number on a leg....

[fozzy]

Sod kilometres for a game of soldiers. And numbers folded pinned to shorts is absolutely the best if you can't have dibbers. I don't think I've ever pinned a number to my running top and I'm damned if I'm starting now

Then you'll be DQ'd from races. Simple.

[fozzy]

Sod kilometres for a game of soldiers. And numbers folded pinned to shorts is absolutely the best if you can't have dibbers. I don't think I've ever pinned a number to my running top and I'm damned if I'm starting now

But I do think dibbers are a sensible way forward for a lot of races.