Broad Stand

[alwaysinjured]

Well I have to admit, you've lost me there with the maths. I was always over cautious with climbing (probably one of the reasons i was never very good at it) and liked to have things as safe as possible. For me, on a round, I'd want a rope (a tight one from above) as after 12 hours on the go I wouldn't want to solo it or rely on my own judgement to get the gear set right. I suppose if in doubt, using lords rake/wwt or foxes is a reasonable way to look at it.

Just think pendulum on rope of right length, rather than deadstop vertical fall on to limit of slack rope ( or sling) Stress is far less.

Re wanting tight rope above for round - most would agree. This a suggestion only for the confident climber or scrambler who want to try to eliminate risk of a fatality, or for safer reccie. The main problem of BS for well supported rounds is the bottleneck effect particularly in high season.

Me personally, I dont like the upper part of the descent to the foot of lords rake, which for me is slow , rest and Wwwt are OK Foxes is a long way down first.