Tonight's football thread

[Conor74]

TBH I think you are the next Blackburn, teams built on money, no togetherness... they plummet when things go bad, Leeds, Blackburn..

Hand up over here. What does "togetherness" mean?

Call me a cynic, and I don't mean to have a go at ManU specifically as it applies to many clubs, but as star players head off with their handlers in lavish sports cars with darkened windows, as the fans drive back to various parts of the country with some even heading back home abroad, not sure many top flight clubs have anything like "togetherness"? I suspect that for a lot of players (again not just ManU), it's a job and they have no real affinity with each other or with the club beyond how it serves them and their interests. Of course sometimes that coincides, some players may be both happy at a club and paid bloody well enough too so they stick around, Giggs, Gerrard, Lampard etc.

[IainR]

But United have a completely different fan base now compared with 74. In those days if you supported a club you got a glimpse of them on Match of the Day till you were old enough to go to matches. Now United have a generation most of whom know nothing but success, always have to have the latest shirt, rarely miss a game on Sky but have never been to Old Trafford. This lot will soon be offski when it all goes tits up under Moyesy

Justify that statement....

Provide one shread of evidence????

Look at Liverpool. 20 years of succes, did their fans walk? Many from the south too.. honestly.. incredulous...

But at least I got a nice angry face from Danbo.. always pleasing.

[IainR]

Hand up over here. What does "togetherness" mean?

Call me a cynic, and I don't mean to have a go at ManU specifically as it applies to many clubs, but as star players head off with their handlers in lavish sports cars with darkened windows, as the fans drive back to various parts of the country with some even heading back home abroad, not sure many top flight clubs have anything like "togetherness"? I suspect that for a lot of players (again not just ManU), it's a job and they have no real affinity with each other or with the club beyond how it serves them and their interests. Of course sometimes that coincides, some players may be both happy at a club and paid bloody well enough too so they stick around, Giggs, Gerrard, Lampard etc.

I'm just winding up Danbo... huge generalisations which mean nothing...

United players tend to stay, be interesting to look at the facts, but thats also because from us where do you go?

Historyless club like City? No stretford end? No romance? Liverpool? or Barca and Madrid.. from us for most Brits the only way is down.

But I understood Ronaldo going, that was his United... kids like Danbert grow up with United on this pedestal and eventually, if given the chance they go... Busby.. Giggs.. both former City who knew what it meant to become a legend... City can't offer that..

[Richard Head]

Justify that statement....

Provide one shread of evidence????

The evidence will become apparent in the next couple of years mate. Empty seats at the theatre of dreams, the M6 Northbound a lot quieter on match days, JD Sports stuck with rails full of United shirts they can't get shot of and Moyesy signing on at Jobcentre Plus. As I said earlier, hang on to those rose tinted glasses you'll be needing them

[Danbert Nocurry]

Here's your classy club for you.

''After Munich the badly injured Johnny Berry and Jackie Blanchflower (neither of whom played again) were evicted from club houses and Berry was fired by letter. Albert Scanlon was badly affected by the disaster and played on for a while before being transferred to Newcastle. Busby told him to get in touch if he ever fell on hard times but when he did and tried to speak to him Busby blanked him. Ray Wood's wife also complained about the bad treatment he received post-Munich.''

Also let's not forget too what happened with the 40th anniversary benefit match for the families in 1998. Cantona got some of his mates to play but claimed, and received, £90,000 in 'expenses'. Aside from the tight arsed claim from multi-millionaire Cantona you'd think that a club as rich as the rags would cough up out of their own funds but no, they paid Cantona's claim out of the benefit money meant for the families.

The rags have done some mean spirited and shithouse things over the years but for sheer classlessness this takes some beating.





Really Classy

[Alf]

Here's your classy club for you.

''After Munich the badly injured Johnny Berry and Jackie Blanchflower (neither of whom played again) were evicted from club houses and Berry was fired by letter. Albert Scanlon was badly affected by the disaster and played on for a while before being transferred to Newcastle. Busby told him to get in touch if he ever fell on hard times but when he did and tried to speak to him Busby blanked him. Ray Wood's wife also complained about the bad treatment he received post-Munich.''

Also let's not forget too what happened with the 40th anniversary benefit match for the families in 1998. Cantona got some of his mates to play but claimed, and received, £90,000 in 'expenses'. Aside from the tight arsed claim from multi-millionaire Cantona you'd think that a club as rich as the rags would cough up out of their own funds but no, they paid Cantona's claim out of the benefit money meant for the families.

The rags have done some mean spirited and shithouse things over the years but for sheer classlessness this takes some beating.





Really Classy

Terrible that! What a bunch of *rseholes, who would want to be associated with a club like that?

[IainR]

The evidence will become apparent in the next couple of years mate. Empty seats at the theatre of dreams, the M6 Northbound a lot quieter on match days, JD Sports stuck with rails full of United shirts they can't get shot of and Moyesy signing on at Jobcentre Plus. As I said earlier, hang on to those rose tinted glasses you'll be needing them

So... do I take that as.. 'there is no evidence'...? Great. Next ??

[IainR]

Any evidence?

[TheHeathens]

"I've spent a lot of time in Manchester and I've never even heard of Manchester City"

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HVC46uP...%3DHVC46uPg-dU

[TheHeathens]

Danbert & Co.......

Whilst you're all getting giddy, let's not forget that as recently as 6 years ago, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International raised serious concerns about your then owner Shinawatra:

- Presided over extrajudicial killings during the notorious "war on drugs". HRW says 2,500 people were killed during one three-month period at the start of 2003.

- Told the Thai military to employ any means to suppress an insurgency in the south of Thailand.

- Suppressed the Thai media.

That's before we look at the corrupt deals that he actually had his assets frozen for. Remember, this is the guy that you sold your soul to, not the Abu Dhabi mob - they rescued you. They have their own issues with human rights (not allowed to criticise the royal family in the press etc but that's for a later post after Danbert mentions Louis Edwards' dodgy meat)

And you say Utd have no class....? I really don't think you have ANY room to talk. This was only 6 years ago so it's not like you can blame it on "just the way it used to be in those days"

Then you 'mobbed' him on his return in 2012: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...er-United.html. Classy.

At least there are some sensible ones amongst you : http://typicalcity.org/2013/03/02/fe...hailed-a-hero/

Pipe down noisy neighbours