Tonight's football thread

[Carlos the Jackal]

Fook me! My generation gets a lot of stick for being a Utd fan (despite it being the closest ground) but I never thought it would be the old boys that would be first to desert the ship at the first sign of trouble.

probably because us old boys have seen it all before. In 1979/1980 season it looked like we could win the league until a 6-0 hiding at Ipswich. We did finish in spectacular style at Leeds on the last game of the season.

[Carlos the Jackal]

But we're a laughing stock.

The situation we're in is dire and it's all of our own making. Mata in would be the first step to recovery.

The next? Sack Moyes. It's just not working. And i'd also get rid of Woodward because his inexperience helped sink Moyes, weeks into his new job. Everyone sort of knew that Moyes was dead on September 2 when they stumbled into carrington with a injured fellaini for £27m

the last laugh could be on those laughing now. More money wiped off the value of the club and the less money the ugly yanks make could make them piss off and sell up. Then we'd be ripe for a human rights abuser, woman hating, homophobe rich Muslim prince take over and things could look a lot different.

[IainR]

the joke is £30,000,000 plus for mata.

Why? Chelsea paid 23? million for a 23 year old, unproven in the EPL.. small flighty player..

He came over, chelseas best player 2 years running.

So He's worth more than that now.

And regarding Jose not liking him so there is something wrong, well he's not liked a fair few. Look at Lukaku?

I think he'll be a good signing. I think he's also a statement by the Glazers, Moyes and Woodward, and its not our weakest part. But we just simply have not scored enough. I've been to a few games and we've been fairly good until 20 yards out, then nothing.. he gives us that creativity.

[TheHeathens]

Why? Chelsea paid 23? million for a 23 year old, unproven in the EPL.. small flighty player..

He came over, chelseas best player 2 years running.

So He's worth more than that now.

And regarding Jose not liking him so there is something wrong, well he's not liked a fair few. Look at Lukaku?

I think he'll be a good signing. I think he's also a statement by the Glazers, Moyes and Woodward, and its not our weakest part. But we just simply have not scored enough. I've been to a few games and we've been fairly good until 20 yards out, then nothing.. he gives us that creativity.

I'm with Iain in this. Mata is a class player and has been consistently class. So he doesn't fit into Mourinho's brand of football? Good!

[Carlos the Jackal]

I'm with Iain in this. Mata is a class player and has been consistently class. So he doesn't fit into Mourinho's brand of football? Good!

I didn't say he was rubbish. Chelsea want nearer £40,000,000 and I think its too much concidering they want Rooney for £25,000,000.

The real problem for me is he isn't the sort of player we need at this difficult time. We need a ball winner like Keane or captain marvel.

I'd still have him if they are prepared to bring more in and not just him. Least it would stop the moaning but can't see it happening.

[Swoop]

you're just show boating now

You're getting confused Ian. City sold boating to Bayern.

[TheHeathens]

I didn't say he was rubbish. Chelsea want nearer £40,000,000 and I think its too much concidering they want Rooney for £25,000,000.

The real problem for me is he isn't the sort of player we need at this difficult time. We need a ball winner like Keane or captain marvel.

I'd still have him if they are prepared to bring more in and not just him. Least it would stop the moaning but can't see it happening.

We've been trying to replace Keane since Keane left. Players of his and Robson's calibre are extremely few and far between.

I do agree with you but the worst thing we can do is try and get a clone of Keane because he just won't be as good. We need to modify the way of playing.

[TheHeathens]

the last laugh could be on those laughing now. More money wiped off the value of the club and the less money the ugly yanks make could make them piss off and sell up. Then we'd be ripe for a human rights abuser, woman hating, homophobe rich Muslim prince take over and things could look a lot different.

I hope not. I have no idea how it would happen from where we are now, but the best thing would be for the club to be in the hands of the fans. A debt free United is self-financing and we don't need a sugar daddy.

[Carlos the Jackal]

I hope not. I have no idea how it would happen, from where we are now, but the best thing would be for the club to be in the hands of the fans. A debt free United is self-financing and we don't need a sugar daddy.

absolutely agree. I'd love it to be based on the barca model, millions of fans each with a little stake in the club. You're the financial advisor lets make it happen. I'd never slag them off again. C'mon

[The General]

Just score Sunderland please. City must be sat at home booking their post Wembley party.