Tonight's football thread

[XRunner]

I've got problems Hamish?!!
Who is Swwop?!!
You don't always score your average, it's an average! (PhD in Maths came in useful there!)
Tries are scored in rugby!

No...I've got problems, Colin!!

[noel]

Still town are a bigger club.

I used to live with a Bolton fan. He used to talk about being a big club because they won things a long time ago.

For me history doesn't really come into it. I think size of club is based on: fan base, how much money they've got [sorry Carlos - I know you won't like this one], 5-year history, strength of sqaud, and most importantly league position.

Anyone care to add to this?

[IainR]

I used to live with a Bolton fan. He used to talk about being a big club because they won things a long time ago.

For me history doesn't really come into it. I think size of club is based on: fan base, how much money they've got [sorry Carlos - I know you won't like this one], 5-year history, strength of sqaud, and most importantly league position.

Anyone care to add to this?

To a point but history is a factor...

Juve are a big club, regardless of success, which has been limited. Likewise Man U and Liverpool..

It is slightly self-fulfilling because clubs of their stature attract investment. But there are still 5 or so teams in the world who have that stature and legendary status. As much as I dislike Liverpool and they've had 20 years of limited success they are still a big club. Likewise United in the 80's... or now.. :-)

[Richard Head]

Well you just can't make it up!!!
Whilst in waterstones passing time I came across a book that I couldn't beleive the cheek of....
" no glossing over" how football cheated Leeds united. Could this be the same club who won their few tropheys by bribing, cheating and lying they're way through their entire history? Still town are a bigger club.

What has happened to the scum in recent years makes me think that perhaps there is something to that Karma thing after all

[that_fjell_guy]

Leeds won their limited trophies with a relatively small team and budget, they lost out on a fair few trophies due to end of season fatigue, their success in multiple competitiond hampering them. Most of the 'Dirty Leeds' stuff is pretty much b***ocks, Leeds were no more dirty than 90% of sixties and seventies teams. Look at the Leeds v Chelsea Cup Final!! Leeds were cheated out of least one European Cup by the corrupt Greek referee, a fact which has been pretty much confirmed though never acknowledged. The 'scum' are doing ok, fiddling around in the Championship and I doubt we'll ever get close to the top of the Premiership again in my life time. Ho hum.

[that_fjell_guy]

Oh! And as for us being a 'big club'. We're not really anymore....

[Swoop]

Leeds won their limited trophies with a relatively small team.

You are right there. Billy Bremner was only 5'5".

[Richard Head]

Look at the Leeds v Chelsea Cup Final!!

That final was my first trip to Wembley, that was the year that they had held the Horse of the Year show at Wembley just before the Final so the pitch was a right shit heap. There was more sand on it than Morecambe beach

[wheezing donkey]

There was more sand on it than Morecambe beach

Not a right lot then? When I was a kid we always referred to Bolton-le-Sands as Bolton-le-Sludge.

[that_fjell_guy]

I didn't have you down as that well aged Richard!!