Tonight's football thread

[Danbert Nocurry]

Interesting reading

[IainR]

Interesting reading

I dont think we can argue we've not spent.. but lets not compare total spending... its incomparable.

However last night again confirmed why Rio should just call it a day. Neville was superbly admirably honest when it was time, he played that west brom game and was a liability.. he walked off and retired. You can lose half a yard of pace and have the experience to cope. Rio is now just too slow. He's been left constantly, even just a step off him at a corner is losing his man.

We've got to blood youngsters now, this season is over. I think with Man U's tradition of youth development we'd be more supportive of moyes if he gambled with youngsters.

I really dont buy Speedy's? comments that Moyes doesnt develop youth, he was superb at Everton either developing or buying in young talent.. but he needs to do it here.

I dont like the targeting of Cleverly, its the older players who have let us down this season. They've slacked off knowing Moyes will take the flack.

[TheHeathens]

Interesting reading

I haven't done it but the costs should be amortised over the number of seasons they've been at the club.

[IainR]

I haven't done it but the costs should be amortised over the number of seasons they've been at the club.

Good point,

Of those few would say Evra, Ferdinand, Carrick and Rooney haven't given value for money... and De Gea is looking very good value.

I thinK mata will be an excellent signing, not convinced by Feliani as of yet.

Rafael is a good little player, works hard, good spirit, attacks, but he needs to find a final ball, at the moment he wastes a lot of possession with poor crosses, especially compared to Neville, who Shearer reckoned was one of the best crossers of the ball in the England team.

[Derby Tup]

Neville was always an excellent crosser of a ball; better than Giggs

[Danbert Nocurry]

Everton to finish fourth?




Just looking at the table and there is a good chance they could beat Arsenal to a Champions League spot.

Another nail in the coffin for Moysie??

[The General]

Time's up now for Moysie. We need Klopp. I think he's growing stale and he'd come at the drop of hat. There may be a learning curve and language barrier initially, but he has the attitude and style we need. Even if he failed, he'd fail doing it in a way more befitting this club. Moyes never will.

Moyes needs to get out for his own sake too. He's become a laughing stock and is going slowly insane. He's a better manager than he's showing right now, this is just the wrong job for him. I've nothing against him at all. I just want him dead.

[IainR]

Time's up now for Moysie. We need Klopp. I think he's growing stale and he'd come at the drop of hat. There may be a learning curve and language barrier initially, but he has the attitude and style we need. Even if he failed, he'd fail doing it in a way more befitting this club. Moyes never will.

Moyes needs to get out for his own sake too. He's become a laughing stock and is going slowly insane. He's a better manager than he's showing right now, this is just the wrong job for him. I've nothing against him at all. I just want him dead.

I think Klopp will come if approached, Bayern have destroyed the German league, basically they buy any of dortmunds better players so they are just a feeder team. Klopp knows that, they try not to sell and their players just run down the contracts and go anyway..

[Witton Park]

Good point,

Of those few would say Evra, Ferdinand, Carrick and Rooney haven't given value for money... and De Gea is looking very good value.

I thinK mata will be an excellent signing, not convinced by Feliani as of yet.

Rafael is a good little player, works hard, good spirit, attacks, but he needs to find a final ball, at the moment he wastes a lot of possession with poor crosses, especially compared to Neville, who Shearer reckoned was one of the best crossers of the ball in the England team.

What

Evra, Ferdinand, Carrick and Rooney HAVEN'T?

I can't buy in to that.

OK I'm a Burnley fan, not Man U, but I have a real admiration for the sides Fergie built over the years.

Evra and Ferdinand have seen better days but they've given a lot and won a lot. Ferdinand should retire now and Evra maybe has another year as cover with Buttner given a chance, or get rid and bring Luke Shaw in.

Carrick has been top drawer through Fergie's reign. He has been fantastic value for money in terms of domestic competition, but perhaps just lacks what is required at the highest level in Europe.
he's perhaps past his best now and likes the dynamism required in midfield. He can perhaps offer what Toure does for City defensively, but he offers nothing offensively.

Rooney - well what a player. His record speaks for itself. He is a world class player. At the start of this season he single handedly kept Utd going and if he hadn't, then Utd would be sitting somewhere around West Ham and Stoke at the moment.
He's struggling at the moment, but I think most would if trying to carry a team through a whole season.

Those 4 have been excellent value for money.

[TheHeathens]

What

Evra, Ferdinand, Carrick and Rooney HAVEN'T?

I can't buy in to that.

Few would say Evra, Ferdinand, Carrick and Rooney haven't given value for money

I read it in the same way as you at first as well though.