Ukip

[TheHeathens]

Defintion of a smart arse

[TheHeathens]

Did find this funny

[shaunaneto]

If ever there was a time for Voltaire....

[Danbert Nocurry]

Danbert - it's your attitude that's appalling. Just look at the bile that your coming out with.

You are in your entrenched political position and your only answer to the wide variety of people who have voted UKIP including people from the groups that UKIP supposedly hate, is to slag them off.

Mr1470 - I'm not blaming anyone and I'd like to sort out the tax dodgers and bankers as well.

Fortunately, when the General Election comes around and Ukip's policies come under scrutiny, your party of protest will be shown up as the charlatans they are.

Sending the Romanians back to Bongo-Bongo land and shooting the gays may not quite tackle all the issues needed to run a country.

[Stagger]

If all they do is get us out of Europe that'll do fine.
It will be 1 more thing for the working classes.

[Witton Park]

Exactly Stagger - and all Danbert dos is peddle more lies. He's like an extension of the Daily Mail (by all accounts)

[noel]

There are several ridiculous aspects about the situation with UKIP. The main one is that they are being elected for the European parliament and yet the decision to withdraw from the EU would be taken nationally. As their ex-leader says they are supporting a system they have stated they are against.

Also, Danbert, it's easy to say that people who vote for UKIP are mindless idiots. They clearly are not. They say they'll do things that some people agree with. Isn't that how politics works?

If they become the third party for the next general election, we have the possibility of a Conservative-UKIP coalition. Or even a Labour-UKIP coalition!

[MickTor]

I've decided to start my own party. Friday night, everyones invited, BYO!




*edit - I am joking, please do NOT turn up at my place on Friday night!

[IainR]

Two different issues here:

1) UKIP are not against immigration of skilled workers where there is a need that can't be met by UK nationals. They're against unchecked immigration of unskilled workers.

2) Most migrant workers in the NHS do NOT come from the EU so would not be affected by us leaving the EU. Most migrant workers are from the old commonwealth countries or countries we have traditional links with (e.g Doctors from India, nurses from Phillipines etc) and have to pass a points based system in order to gain employment, i.e, prove they're skilled.

So the NHS is a bit of a red herring when we're discussing leaving the EU and I actually think it's unethical employing these migrant workers because the health services suffer in their country of origin. Countries where decent healthcare is needed a lot more than here.

No, my comments were in response to brightside saying we need to stop immigration..

Re ethical concerns.. Thats just closing them out, probably more good is done by letting them into work and money will return to their countries.

[IainR]

If all they do is get us out of Europe that'll do fine.
It will be 1 more thing for the working classes.

Why?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ritain-3610179

This is a worst case scenario, but many companies will leave the UK overnight..

There are many issues with the UK, blaming immigrants for them is just very wrong, and very scary...

People should read the 'Britain First' page on Facebook...

There's just no policy to UKIP, leave Europe, then what? WHat about our national debt? Immigration needs (we do have them).. people moan about unskilled workers on the farms, but few are willing to go and do those jobs.. so would you be willing to pay more for produce?

In the US Bush wanted a big drive against immigrant farm workers and the wealthy farm owners pointed out that they could not farm without immigrants...