It's sad we don't do this any more. Looking back it seems about 2/3 to 3/4 of the xotf regulars don't post on the forum any longer, that and steve's injury look to have nailed the coffin shut on this. I was thinking today what could we do to restart xotf; i think going to one of the farthest corners of the country at the busiest time of year is potentially prohibitive, and the itinerary is now more commitment based than the first one in 2007. For next year, and this is only a suggestion out of desperation more than anything, we could consider a facelift. Change the venue to Addingham or Grassington, meet for a run then start with a pint in a pub- no bookings, no commitments, keep it as informal as possible, eat at a chippy or wherever? go to Buffers for a tea then go home? Just something more central and more simple, unless the regulars come home to roost in which case it'll probably spark back into life again. Thoughts? Insults? Who TF do i think i am- the fairy godmother?