Yes, friends are emigrating. Scientists funded by the EU.Originally Posted by Stagger
Yes, friends are emigrating. Scientists funded by the EU.
You did see that, but there's talk that the senior (German) part of the deal may wish to force the headquarters to be in the EU after originally planning for it to be in London
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07..._after_brexit/
so i,m alright **** the rest
Would they have done this anyway for a brighter future?
Idiots. Agreements will.not be deconstructed retrospectively.
I agree with Alan Lucker, we should all take a trip to the seaside and forget about it.
I fear the wrong Tory front bench taking over the job will put us back too close to where we began. There's a risk they'll bottle it and accept free movement in return for a sweet trade deal, leaving the UK with a net migration rate that is still outstripping the infrastructure and resources. Hopefully the situation that is leaving farmers dependent of subsidies, and fishermen wanging dead fish back into the sea can be addressed.
I wish people would stop flapping and be brave too. Some remainers seem to have banded together and set out on a righteous campaign to overturn a democratic process. All they will achieve is to destabilise the whole changover process and the markets aswell. We could really do with acceptance and stability, the more the remainers rock the boat the bigger the danger the country will be in; they themselves are currently the biggest problem, not the economy or acts of racism.
Well said, mr b.
I've thought for some time that the big democratic deficit was between Brussels and the British public. It would appear that the big democratic deficit is amongst the British public themselves.
Reasons?
Partly, I think the Labour Party was in government for too long. The centrist wing of the Labour movement grew too complacent thinking that it had done its job and took its eye off the ball. This led to the resurgence of the career agitators and the professional whiners and before you could say "John Smith's your uncle!", all of the good work done between 1985 and 2010 was undone at a stroke.
It's sad that in 21st century Britain, marching and protesting against the result of a general election / referendum is now seen, by a sizeable minority of the British electorate, as a perfectly normal and natural thing to do.
Secondly, social media may be partly responsible as well. Everybody lives in an echo chamber nowadays. The opposite view isn't argued with because it's never even seen. How many times have I read "but no-one I know voted Leave!"?
Which brings me to my third and final point. Why were the polls so wrong? The only poll that accurately predicted the result was the one done by Leave.EU on the eve of the poll. I don't know anything about their methodology but I can imagine that "Shy leavers" were to blame for the discrepancies in all of the others.
When people are embarrassed to reveal their voting intentions because they feel it's socially unacceptable (see the social media point above) then the socially acceptable point of view will appear to be more prevalent than it otherwise is, which will cause more people to conceal their true intentions which will cause ........... it's a 'Spiral of Silence' and it's very worrying for British politics.
If the UK adopted the WTO model then every single benefit becomes a reality. The EU then retains zero hold on the UK. It becomes more complicated if the UK wants the same tariff free access to the Single Market that it enjoys today. Some compromises are inevitable. The approach taken will depend to a large extent on who becomes the next Prime Minister. I believe Gove favoured the WTO approach but he is very unlikely to win.
No, they'd planned on raising they're young family in a stable environment.
Which is completely missing a key point. Nearly half the vote didn't agree, and if we are going to move on decisively those that did not agree need to be convinced.
Otherwise.....
"I fear the wrong Tory front bench taking over the job will put us back too close to where we began. There's a risk they'll bottle it and accept free movement in return for a sweet trade deal, leaving the UK with a net migration rate that is still outstripping the infrastructure and resources. Hopefully the situation that is leaving farmers dependent of subsidies, and fishermen wanging dead fish back into the sea can be addressed."
And simply resorting to the remain level of cheap childish insults won't achieve this.
Looking for direction and a means to get there isn't "flapping" you cheeky wotsit. I dread to think what youre like when you ask directions on foreign holidays if you think it is!
It is what it is, the biggest risk now is that our representatives **** it up! And that risk is at its greatest if those yet to be convinced are left to be so, and if we end up with a pro Europe PM which looks likely the problem will be exacerbated.
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