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    Yes I wonder if Wiggins has convinced himself he was not actually cheating. I notice Brailsford was very specific to say "we never pressure team members to cheat" rather than "we don't let team members cheat". It's a much more defensible position and implies he knows more than he's letting on.

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    Froome has tweeted an interesting response. See BBC sport webpage.

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    Fluimucil - acetyl cysteine - is such an ineffective decongestant that we never used it in hospital, even in those who were very ill. It does however have a bit of a reputation in some muscle building circles as a muscle conditioner and a post exercise pain reliever - whether these claims are true or not I have no idea. As to why a cyclist might take it ....

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    Gosh - British Cycling/Sky look like they are in real trouble ....

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    Yep, heads will roll and sir's should be back to Mr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike T View Post
    Gosh - British Cycling/Sky look like they are in real trouble ....
    Hey Mike T there goes that 'marginal gains' idea you pushed from Team Sky.

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    We have democracies and chumocracies now in cycling we also have dopeocracies. Bring in a doctor or doctors who have no qualms in issuing healthy athletes with inhalers, corticosteroids and various other pharmaceuticals. Then hire coaches who know how to train on such stuff and what you finish with is a new world order, Team Sky and British Cycling. Cheating under the guise of the TUEs and it seems much of the establishment is in on it.

    No wonder other cycling teams were complaining about the British domination at the past two or three Olympic games. They were right, something was amiss and the nonsense spouted by educated people in regard to the 'package' and what was in there proves it so.

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    And what about Seb Coe and athletics. That's one big Dope-ocracy. Coe, a great athlete has poor judgement for such a powerful position. And the bizarre thing is he doesn't try to hide it. There seems to be no sense of self-evaluation, as in "erm is this the right thing to do."

    Take the recent documentary on the BBC about EPO MO (Mo Farah). Farah is in the mire because of his missed drugs tests and association with Alberto Salazar who USADA says fine tunes his athletes performances with various concoctions. If I was Coe knowing all that I certainly wouldn't have participated in a program sucking up to Mo Farah. Not when I've just taken over a sport being decimated by doping. But there he is telling us how great Farah is without any sense of the future S..t hitting the fan.

    It's not just Coe its other members of the Dope-ocracy. Take Brendan Foster and Steve Cram. Still making money from sucking up to the druggies. Women running 29 minutes in the 10km "erm no problem Stevie just think of the money." Farah a 10000m runner breaks Crams 30 year old 1500m record and all Cram can say is Farah's the greatest British runner ever. How do they sit there as experts and present such a farce to a public who trusts their expertise? shocking.

    And as the years go by the old lows are surpassed by new lows that normal rational people simply cannot comprehend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CL View Post
    Hey Mike T there goes that 'marginal gains' idea you pushed from Team Sky.
    I still believe in the philosophy behind so called marginal gains, but that does not mean they were not breaking the rules, or at least the spirit of the rules, as well - these things are not mutually exclusive.

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    What's interesting to me about this is not that once again doping is associated with success. The interesting bit is that a culture of bullying seems to work.

    Management consultants take note.

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