Brexit

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I stand by the first para and wrt the second; we aren't at the end game yet.

IMHO self-serving millionaires like despicable Johnson sold a gullible public smoke and mirrors wrapped up in a union jack and, like people have been doing for thousands of years - they fell for it. But anyone can sell dreams; the hard part is making the dreams come true. The Brexit camp never have explained how and and never could because it was and is impossible. But Johnson is paid around £7000 for every weekly column he writes for The Daily Telegraph so what does he care?

In negotiation it takes two to make a deal and this fundamental truth has long been beyond the intellectual grasp of most MPs.

Whatever the economic arguments: the EC is about ideology and the big guns of the 27 are not willing to jeopardise that and see the edifice crumble for the sake of mere money and giving the UK a good deal to be followed out of the door by Italy.

Theresa May might be lacking in some areas but compared with the poisonous, weak hypocritical dwarves she is surrounded by and given the task she alone was prepared to take on - she hasn't done a bad job but, alas, nobody ever said politics was fair or honourable etc.

But thinking of Italy: yesterday I ordered my Bianchi in celeste with Campag. groupset - so the sun will still come up in the morning.

She's dishonest Graham. A no deal is better than a bad deal, that's what she said, and this is a very baddddd deal. She's backtracked at every turn. But the worst lie was putting herself forward for the PM position knowing she was a remainer. And those who backed her are just as bad. They and us can't complain now if we get a Corbyn government.

At one point in time I would have agreed with you on the EU having an ideology they'd stick to, but the deal they did with Trump under pressure shows they will put their principles aside for a good deal and bit of dough.