Brexit

[Oracle]

Oracle, you say those Tory pro-no-deal MPs are only saying "let's leave without a deal" to increase our bargaining power to get a better deal. Whereas a lot of people including other MPs in their own party, who've known and worked with them for year, don't agree and think the ERG really want to leave without a deal. That's why they've now voted to avoid that. I think I believe them and not you.

Having already brought down four leaders over Europe, the Tory party seem intent to continue to tear themselves apart over Europe. I wonder if the lack of a credible opposition is partly to blame. I suspect there would be more of a call for unity if they were 20 points behind in the polls. They seem to forget their real audience is the public, not their colleagues in the party.

You can believe in fairies if you like as well. You don't have to believe me.


Reality is the leading brexiteers and I are all provably and historically all champions of free trade which BY DEFINITION means wanting free trade agreeements, which is why ( for example) they have gone on record to sat the interim position they suggest is lodging the intention for free trade as a joint eu and uk statement to WTO to allow the no tarriff arrangements to continue until formalised.
( big hint: that interim is a deal, that requires joint assent) so is proof of intent for a deal. They also considered it ridiculous that EU refuse a joint agreement on such as satellites or intelligence, and all have said so,

All prefer a deal. But no deal is better than EUs attempt at humiliation.
And EVERYONE must accept no deal as a position to negotiate a good deal. MPs are too stupid to see it,

So take care who you trust. There are many willing to misrepresent them.

Two things remain definitively true.
1/ The utter refusal of EU to even discuss trade in violation of article 50 unless we accept an eyewatering blackmail payment, and a permanent annexation of the sovereignty of Northern Ireland, and other weapons in the WA designed to force us into submission in every later negotiation.

2/ the willingness of remainers MPs to abuse every process and misrepresent all opposition in the quest to undermine and reverse Brexit. It was ne real intended as a meaningful vote, on,y a wrecking manoeuvre, now leaving us in no mans land.

ERG are the only group in the commons respecting the referendum and manifesto.