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    Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
    I'm not answering, in a deliberate attempt to encourage you to get out running now your knee is better.

    But seriously. My take on it is that Farage wasn't saying "look at the all these people who are going to Germany" like you seem to be suggesting. I think he knew full well this would be interpreted by many as "look at all these people who will come to the UK if you don't support us leaving". If you're talking about fatuous arguments - maybe you'd like to start with this.

    And regarding Turkey. That was another scare story. There was no way Turkey was going to be allowed to join the EU. Yes, it had been previously discussed, but at the time was getting more and more unlikely. Am I right in saying it could have been vetoed (and still can) by a single country? How likely do you think it is that the UK would have said yes after the various arrests of journalists etc?
    The accession of turkey is hardly relevant. The volume of migrants and refugees is. Add the fact that brussels demands all take a share, and once in the EU they are free to travel.

    The high population density in England is higher than most eu countries, combined with a 10 percent population increase. Something no migrant brings is accomodation, and even the most optimistic house forecasts do not get close to prior migrant numbers. So we have an issue with numbers. It is why we have a problem, and it is why we must control numbes. Farages photo radiates "big numbers" which could be because there were big numbers! Germany took 500000 I recollect!

    Despite welcoming tenants of several nationalities I see the flaws in the policies that cause them to migrate here. Until EU solves its own nightmare policies leading to scorched earth in some countries, we have to restrict numbers.

    Farage is not Tommy Robinson. The word racist should never be used a cheapshot. Using afake white photograph rather than real one as a sop to correctness is ridiculous. Are you going to ask the BBC to fake news photos, to make all stories race or gender neutraL as well?

    I come back to what I said. Accusing anyone of racism without proof of intent is libellous,and cheapshots like Pats are scandalous. Brexiteers have had enough of it. If you detect anger it is because I am angry.
    Last edited by Oracle; 15-04-2019 at 04:59 PM.

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