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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    whereas: equating the EU with Nazis, citing out of date statistics, intimating that "remainers" are a bit dim and don't really care about the plight of European friends and colleagues etc, ad nauseam is perfectly fine.
    I stated illinformed Dave. Not dim. And on the issue of EU and Eurozone macroeconomics that much is generally true.

    Now answer for yourself not us. Had you even heard of target 2 before I raised it? Or the ECB issuer limits and legal foundation that prevent it helping Italy, whilst making Italian banks even more rocky.

    There really is a flood of money leaving Italy, most of which (and from other countries too) ends back in Germany. I never did use the N word. Does it not worry you? It is clearly unsustainable.

    The history of failed currency unions really is 100 percent. I listed at least five of them in Europe alone! Not least because the fiscal constraints prevent recovery of the weak and encourage divergence. The migrations that result also hinder not encourage recovery. There really is around 50 percent youth unemployment in southern Italy, and a migration of professionals from poor to rich countries. Now you know that doesn't it concern or worry you?

    However inconvenient any of that may be to remain arguments, factually it is none the less true. Even 30 percent youth unemployment is dire for the future, but that is true of several countries. After long bull periods now we are also entering recession so itcan only get worse.

    Why is it the Brexit arguments get so emotive? Messengers get shot.
    Last edited by Oracle; 19-04-2019 at 08:41 PM.

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    factually it is none the less true
    and round we go

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    I think you've got a bit bitter and twisted. I understand where you are coming from but it's better to engage with counter argument rather than sarcastic comments. That gets us nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    and round we go
    I certainly hope not.
    I would love just one reasoned rather than emotive response to any of the issues I raised.

    Let's focus on one. The flood of money back to Germany outstripping all other Nations by a massive margin, or indeed the flood out of Italy.

    Are target 2 balances lying? If so why?
    Is that in your view a good thing?
    Is such a flood possibly sustainable?
    How Can it end, other than badly?
    Did you even know that?
    You never answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    whereas: equating the EU with Nazis, citing out of date statistics, intimating that "remainers" are a bit dim and don't really care about the plight of European friends and colleagues etc, ad nauseam is perfectly fine.
    Not to mention two dead women. Where the heightened tension in society caused, in part, by brexit, contributed to their deaths.
    And no they did not die solely because of brexit, so don't accuse me of saying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry View Post
    Not to mention two dead women. Where the heightened tension in society caused, in part, by brexit, contributed to their deaths.
    And no they did not die solely because of brexit, so don't accuse me of saying that.
    You should know better. There are riots in Ulster every Easter which "celebrate" the Easter Rising and I know that Brexit seems to have been around a long time it has not been here for 103 years! So to connect the shooting to Brexit is bollocks and you know it.
    Whilst on this subject it seems to me that the journalistic world are going overboard about the shooting and making her out to be some sort of heroine. More like stupid for hanging around police armoured vehicles that were under attack.
    What was she doing there? Probably looking for a minor police misdemeanor to blow out of all proportion rather than any serious reporting.
    No sympathy whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llani Boy View Post
    No sympathy whatsoever.
    None??? None for her, the victim of a senseless murder, none for her family, her friends, her partner, none for the people who had to witness a needless death...Wow

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    Wow indeed

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    Stolly's parting comment was something like "right wing extremist"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry View Post
    Stolly's parting comment was something like "right wing extremist"
    But then my parting shot to a corbynista could (justifiably, in that case) be left wing extremist.
    But How does such name calling help?
    Last edited by Oracle; 20-04-2019 at 01:36 PM.

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