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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry View Post
    Must say, I did not expect the Peterborough result, I assumed the Brexit party would win it easily. I wonder if Corbyn will take note of the fact that a remainer actually manage to win in a strong leave constituency.
    There is nothing easy in politics.

    Labour threw the kitchen sink at it, and knew exactly what doors to knock on. If it had been a level playing field on information, and brexit party had had more time,the majority is so thin, Corbyn would have lost it. The party themselves were never so confident of winning as the media were.

    For a party in opposition for ten years, the result is appalling for labour. They should be winning such seats by big majorities. For one thing labour voters are more likely to vote for a donkey wearing a red rosette, if they turn out at all. In this case they did. Objectionable woman, out of the leaders mold. It is why she got picked.

    It is also interesting that Ben (of britainelects) who is worth following and savvy on results said it is as expected from polls: but apparently this also proves that a substantial number of other seats would go to brexit party if voted right now.

    In the end none of it solves the problem.
    EU refuse to negotiate. So the only brexit is what they call no deal.
    The "More ambitious deals" are simply more EU shackles. So not brexit at all.
    And parliaments only alternative is to rescind A50.
    The straight choice they refuse to make.
    The only arguments for staying in are negative: fear of EU reprisal. Like russia, in europe the machine guns point in, to stop people leaving! It is not a reason to stay.

    Labour is as divided as Tory. Their only policy is duplicity.

    It is not a tory problem.
    It is the refusal of the house in general and labour in particular to accept the reality of the position. Compounded by a traitor of a speaker.
    No deal or rescind A50. Just get on with it.
    Last edited by Oracle; 07-06-2019 at 12:09 PM.

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