Brexit

[DangerMouse]

Thanks Wheeze, I guess you are right, I am no stranger to the wranglings of online discussion and how easily things can go awry! Perhaps this is why I have been so careful and I think to some degree quite humble in my questioning and positioning. This is not easy. will slowly make my way through and hopefully learn a thing or two

Philosophically I can see the arguments for both leave and remain, and if I think about it, the inevitable outcome of this was always going to be divisive. Not just divisive in the short term, but for decades to come. I think you are right Noel in that there will be resentment either way. It makes me think of the most classic of power and control idioms "Divide and conquer" that is: To gain or maintain power by generating tension among others, epecially those less powerful, so that they cannot unite in opposition.

Anyone should be able to see, if they take a moment to truly reflect, that our government as it stands is an outdated and largely dysfunctional system (for us, the people) that is in it's death throes. It's certainly not democracy - that is rule by the people or their elected representatives. It's more of a corpocracy, by which I mean that the government is really the public relations department for large corporates and their objectives are based not on what the people need, but rather on the basis of passing legislature to facilitate the generation of maximum profits for the large corporates and transfer of our public assets into private ownership.

What better way to maintain the status quo, the rich being in power and the common people being subjugated and cowed, than to shift the focus from a dying political system to a complete division of thought in the populace.

Instead of everyone looking at government and thinking what the hell are we doing here, this is broken, we need a new system - which is what I actually believe we need, we're all arguing amongst ourselves over how our government should resolve this absurd situation. If it wasn't so serious it would be hilarious.

I would like to see the abolition of government parties and the introduction of a system that was truly altruistic where publicly appointed representatives are assigned to each of the governance domains according to their ability, skills, knowledge etc. The government should be made up of the greatest minds in society who work together to make things better for everyone, not just the large corporates. So, for example, the education secretary should be someone who cares deeply about making the education system as good as it possibly can be, regardless of political persuasion. The question should be, how can we educate our young people to the highest standards. That's it. Not which political party is in power. It just seems like distraction tactics.

To this end it makes little difference if we leave or not, I guess we just have to go with it now as the decision has already been made, but I do look forward to the day when we can collectively overcome these side show distractions and get to the real issues at hand like healthcare, energy, pollution, education, transport, etc. all of which I see being handed over without so much as a 'by your leave' to private concerns.

Example: We do not have a public transport system any more, we have a private transport system who's primary objective is shareholder profits, not about getting people inexpensively and safely from a to b. I personally think the public transport system should be free at point of use and paid for by personal transport taxation (I might've to hide under a chair for this one! ).

The same thing is happening to all our other public services, energy has already gone private and look at that (~25,000 older people die needlessly every year because they cant keep warm - one person over 65 every 7 minutes - see reports from AgeUK) - this is nothing short of premeditated mass murder by the energy companies yet they remain unprosecuted and free to make massive profits based on death and suffering.

The healthcare system is next in line and I am terrified that it is going to end up exactly the same as it is in the US where if you don't have money/insurance you will be left to suffer on the pavement outside the hospital.

This in itself should be a huge wakeup call - this is what should be compelling us to forget our differences unite and fight against the outright theft and sale of our public property.

Sorry, another good wibble there... again just thoughts!!