Sadly the bravado of labour cannot match the reality

Read Dan Hodges assessment in the Mail for a fair summary of where it is all at now.
Behind the brave face,Labour MPs are desparate. Corbyn is even more toxic on doorsteps than no deal brexit. Corbyns duplicity has managed to convince remainers he is for leave, and leavers that he is remain, he reaps what he sows. Nobody wants a marxist terrorist lover, many of his own Mps cannot countenance his becoming PM.

And Labour has a bigger problem than Tory. 70 percent of its seats are leave, 70 percent of the voters remain. If Corbyn backs a referendum, Ie remain, he will lose most of north england. The actions of labour MPs are now managing to piss off most of the EU minor states, for refusing even allowing the deal to vote, knowing they will lose it. The minor states have little to lose by not allowing extension.

Its true. The FPP system has problems, but like capitalism, until someone comes up with something better it must remain. PR leads to the same sort of indecision we see in such as spain. How many governments recentlY? it is why PR states are easy victim to brussels duplicity.



Quote Originally Posted by Stolly View Post
The first past the post system is no way to judge overall popularity WP. The tories at their absolute best, when winning the 1983 election, had something like 42% of the popular vote but won effectively 66% of the seats in parliament. I could not vote for the tories for billions of years, given an eternal life time, in my constituency and I suspect that the conservatives would win every time. My vote in a general election means very little. Yeah this does work for labour too, like under Tony Blair, but the disproportional representation was wrong there too.

Boris is shit scared of a second referendum because he knows he’ll lose it. Labour on the other hand aren’t shit scared of an election (they want one once no deal is dead and buried). A delay to the election and hopefully a second referendum before a general election could be a ground zero point for the tories (which they’ll richly deserve) ��