PPE in other trades is the property of the workers and they look after it themselves.
Gloves, screens, overalls, ear defenders, safety glasses, googles etc
PPE is not new to the engineering or construction world.
PPE in other trades is the property of the workers and they look after it themselves.
Gloves, screens, overalls, ear defenders, safety glasses, googles etc
PPE is not new to the engineering or construction world.
As to Ambleside "refusing to accept" its share of people - second home owners - er - it's in the legislation: 2020/350. Nothing to do with Ambleside, or any other second home spot.
To resolve the argument between Oracle and MikeT, I propose:
How to respond to COVID19 without damaging the economy or upsetting the medics
Persons of a sensitive disposition should not read further.
1. Let all activity carry on as normal; no disruption to economic activity, education, sport, etc.
2. Anyone displaying COVID19 symptoms is banned from hospitals. So the NHS can carry on all its normal work without disruption or the need for extra PPE.
3. The only extra demand on public expenditure is to employ the people touring the streets with trucks, shouting "Bring out your dead", and digging mass graves.
4. Since most deaths are among the elderly, pension fund managers are happy: there is little, if any, downturn in their investments, while the number of pensioners they are paying out to reduces substantially.
5. Richard Dawkins writes a bestseller explaining the role of pandemics in evolution by natural selection (assuming Richard Dawkins survives the pandemic; he's quite old).
6. The Tory government gets voted out at the next General Election, because many habitual Tory voters were rather fond of their elderly relatives who died.
In his lifetime he suffered from unreality, as do so many Englishmen.
Jorge Luis Borges
Richard Taylor
"William Tell could take an apple off your head. Taylor could take out a processed pea."
Sid Waddell
Multiply Belgium’s figures by a factor of SIX to scale to ours.
You get close on 45000, almost double ours. Way higher. So care homes are not explanation.
English population density at 400 is way higher than other big European countries , and of lesser states Belgium is the only one that gets close. Germany way less.
Belgium did massive testing. So that is not a panacea.
Sweden did far less, and is not suffering disproportionately. Poor countries have done little , they can’t afford it, and have no mass Pandemic.
Mike- you are not studying the arguments that clearly disagree with the usual “ U.K. government is crap” hypothesis. It’s your peers calling the shots.
Countries are not comparable.
I think you touched on the real responsibility in an earlier post. If the Chinese Government had acted more swiftly to eradicate the virus when they knew about it instead of deliberately covering it up and misleading the world, then this thread wouldn't even exist. These are the people that truly have blood on their hands. Just occasionally Trump says something that is right. And this is one of those occasions.
The FT estimated 41,000 deaths over a week ago.
https://www.ft.com/content/67e6a4ee-...3-e239799fa6ab
NOT A LOT CHANGES
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_s...United_Kingdom
https://www.foxnews.com/health/death...ious-estimates
https://www.britannica.com/event/inf...c-H1N1-of-2009
Best just face it no matter how much people Pontificate and speculate it is far to early for any answers, far better to listen to and abide by the advice given to us by experts and wait for history to reveal the answers as to how nature has given us a good kicking and hopefully learn from the experience (although I doubt that will happen). After all there are people with far more factual knowledge (than anybody on any public forum) that are working on the crisis and hopefully steering us in the right direction again only history will let us know.
Last edited by JohnK; 30-04-2020 at 02:18 PM.
The older I get the Faster I was
Love it.
It is shades of yes minister
The hospital that opened with no patients disturbing good process or workflow was apparently a reality. The writers of yes minister said all the incidents were based loosely on real events, and the really absurd ones were the closest to reality, including that one!
Last edited by Oracle; 30-04-2020 at 02:31 PM.