Imperial and oxford have made such wildly ridiculous and opposed predictions I am surprised anyone is still listening to any of them. Fantasy Ferguson resigned. He who said the swedes would have 50000 deaths if they pursued their policies. NOT.
Indeed WHO observations that some may get a second dose are far more likely to be a failure of tests.
A false positive, then later they get the disease. WHO were so invested in testing they have to say it was a double dose.
Having been vociferous in attacking government for lack of antibody tests, We now find BMJ saying that the tests are largely a waste of time. It says more about the medical professions penchant for self promotion and arguing regardless, than it does about COVID
One of the clear statements in wittons paper, is now generally accepted. That neither abbot nor Roche test are anything like as good as they claim. Even the test laboratory I used admitted it!
The first role of TCells is recognition of an invader ,so turning on immune response. Some are later involved in killing, helping etc, and later making antibodie.
The peptides in this study do indeed appear to trigger T cells in non covid patients. Far less than ex covid patients, but still significant.
Cross response is the norm we all rely on. It is why cowpox vaccine immunises against smallpox.
I think the future will show for example that South Korea succeeded despite their government action not because of it. After all - the Chinese hid it for weeks, and covid can progress assymptomatically. By the Time S korea acted they shut the stable door after the horse had come.
Could it be past exposure to other corona viruses tuning T cell response?
Originally Posted by Steph
