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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    Haha what about the moon landings mossdog?
    Struth! All done and dusted mate. Every one has now seen the squirrel (unexplained object) scampering in the top corner of that studio setting, reflected in Neil Armchair's visor.
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    Great Barrington was an open letter, anyone could sign it with a made up name just for the craic or to discredit it. Boaty McBoatface anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_Mole View Post
    don't blame the meedja, it's been signed by experts such as Dr Johnny Bananas, Professor Cominic Dummings and someone who went to the University of Your Mum. Someone else's name is apparently the first verse of the Macarena. Sky News (not the Gruniad) apparently discovered 18 self-declared homeopaths in the list of expert names and more than 100 therapists whose expertise included massage, hypnotherapy and Mongolian khoomii singing.
    Well, I am starting to blame the MSM who appear to have become addicted to fear mongering, perhaps especially now they're sick of Brexit. Not sure how old you are Dave, but I recall the HIV/AID 'crisis' in the 1980s and the mass hysteria that entailed. Closing of borders. Doctors refusing to treat some patients, and all the ensuring craziness. Fast forward 2020 and a sense of deja vu. Once again some feverish thinking has also apparently taken over political leaders and the media. A year ago, if anyone wrote that medical professionals who had differing views on how to approach a serious health subject would be silenced, and classed as evil denialists, to be lampooned, you'd would have thought it science fiction. But now it is the norm. It will ultimately be interested to read the figures of how many have died of 'lockdown' rather than Covid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    Slightly both covid and film watching related: I took lockdown as a perfect excuse to upgrade our TV in April and, now with a beautiful Sony 50 incher, we have subsequently watched no end of great films on Netflix, Amazon Prime and Muji (and occasionally on Sky) as well as a whole host of fantastic TV series. You'll hate me for saying it Graham but we're not really missing the cinema at all.
    With my kind heart and recognising you are now a bit too old and frail to go out in the cold to a cinema with a mere 50 feet wide screen I have arranged with Netflix that The Trial of the Chicago Seven will be shown on Netflix in 50 inch splendour next Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    Hmmm like the the governments of China, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Australia and New Zealand then 🤔
    The governments of those countries you mention are fortunate that the vast majority of their subjects do as they are advised/requested/told to do and if they don't there are and have been consequences.

    In this so called United Kingdom we, unfortunately, are not united and have a very large minority of society who are so selfish and self centred that they just ignore the rules and do what they want and what makes it worse is that there no or very few consequences for their behaviour.

    This does not just apply to the Covid crisis but many other aspects of life which include litter, graffiti, general yobbish behaviour, aggressive driving, respect for authority/elders etc.....

    What this country needs is a short sharp shock but I'm afraid it will never happen as the snowflakes, although in the minority, are making the most noise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llani Boy View Post
    What this country needs is a short sharp shock but I'm afraid it will never happen as the snowflakes, although in the minority, are making the most noise.
    That's an interesting take on it LB. I thought it's normally the libertarian type who object to being told what to do. Those numpties protesting in London a few weeks didn't strike me as snowflakes.

    Or are we using different definitions of snowflakes here?

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    I don't normally comment on this thread, but do follow it So here's a question for all of you with knowledge or a valid opinion.
    Why are lockdown measures/virus impact so much worse in central Scotland, the north of England and high population areas of Wales? I wonder why the south of England seem to be living a normal life? Is it any thing to do with levels of disadvantage or just to do with where the people in power live?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
    That's an interesting take on it LB. I thought it's normally the libertarian type who object to being told what to do. Those numpties protesting in London a few weeks didn't strike me as snowflakes.

    Or are we using different definitions of snowflakes here?
    I think we largely do as we have to witin the law here. There are always rule breakers who rob, assault, commit fraud, drink drive, navigate around a fell race with GPS....

    and I think the law abiding citizens of the UK have mostly followed the guidance and laws that have been put in place.

    But when the law is an ass then the generally law abiding public of the UK start object. You have to consider that when Bojo came back in Mid May and set out his plan for gradually opening up, even though we had gone way over the original 3-4 weeks, most people still bought in to that.

    It's mostly the last 12 weeks, since the Leicester lockdown, that there has been an increase in criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llani Boy View Post
    The governments of those countries you mention are fortunate that the vast majority of their subjects do as they are advised/requested/told to do and if they don't there are and have been consequences.
    I think there are different reasons why the East has typically fared better than the west and if you look at what's happening to Darren Grimes at the moment, I think some of those Far East places are better off than us at the moment.

    Our police seem more intent on investigating non crimes than crimes these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wetherby whaler View Post
    Great Barrington was an open letter, anyone could sign it with a made up name just for the craic or to discredit it. Boaty McBoatface anyone?
    Their website made the mistake of allowing the general public to "sign" their declaration.

    Did they have an easy method of removing fabricated names or even checking that the professional people were who they claimed to be?

    I am generally in agreement with their declaration but personally do not believe that natural herd immunity is the best method of reducing the effects of Covid-19 before a vaccination is available.

    I also think that statements like "devastating effects" or "irreparable damage" are not the most appropriate phrases to include in a general declaration.

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