Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
We’ve gone over (and over) this point loads of times before. If the virus was given free or much looser reign it would inevitably shut down the effectiveness of the nhs - firstly they get swamped with patients and secondly all of their staff get the virus. The same would happen to care home staff. I’m all for the use of restrictions and tiers too, it’s not all about lockdown, but you have consistently argued against the tide of a wall of facts Witton. In the early days you concluded (wrongly) that the country had already reached a high infection point, you’ve argued against the massively proven contagiousness of covid, you’ve argued against its potential to spread exponentially, you’ve argued against masks, you’ve argued against not shutting down businesses (where there is a high risk of infection) and have pretty much taken a contrarian view (contrarian to science and the views of most of the world’s scientists, not just our own) all the way through
Stolly I'm only putting some thoughts out there for people to consider and I'm conscious I don't want to fall out with you or anyone on here.

But I don't accept the "inevitability" and 100% confidence you have in some of the situations we've discussed, although I do accept your opinions have validity.

I haven't argued against any facts. I've looked at the information out there and there are University Academics of international renown looking at the same information and coming to differing conclusions to each other.

Facts are thin on the ground.

You've attributed assertions to me that are not as I have made them.

So Stolly, do you think the country only attained a low infection point? What does it even mean? I'm not sure what level equates to low and what level equates to high.

My position is that I think many more have had it than the case statistics we see. I'm not sure anyone disagrees with that. SAGE, supposedly at a tangent to me suggest cases of 100k a day back in March. I suggest more IF the initial assessment of R=4 without suppression policies holds water.