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    I think the best comment I have heard on this issue (specifically with reference to the Tour de France) was along the lines of, "How can one expect any human to be cycling for 21 days at that intensity without some chemical assistance?"

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    Never mind taking the illegal enhancing stuff, isn’t today’s mine field more about what you can take legally? You know painkillers, caffeine, nicotine, asthma medication, keto supplements, beetroot juice and bicorbonate of soda? Plus boosters of supplements that naturally occur in food that are allowable but are taken in big doses far in excess of any natural occurrence? Specific diet plans, oxygen deprivation training, the list goes on. Worst of all there’s always those annoying bastards that train harder than anyone else and/or were born genetically fitter than anyone else

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    Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
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    Of course, we could just accept that many are doping to small degrees within safe limits, and it's all part of the sport.
    You mean like footballers "winning" penalties?

    Obviously OK if it's my team but absolutely outrageous if the other side score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    Never mind taking the illegal enhancing stuff, isn’t today’s mine field more about what you can take legally? You know ...asthma medication...)
    Oh the moral dilemmas!

    Think of poor old Bradley when Big Dave told him he needed an injection for his asthma.

    "But I haven't got asthma Mr Brailsford"

    "Of course you haven't you idiot but you are a mediocre road rider being propped up by Froomey and with this injection you can win the Tour, become immortal to your country men, be knighted by the Queen, become a millionaire, get your name on bikes and kit and never need to start doing an honest day's work.

    You might need to tell a few lies afterwards but I am sure that won't trouble you...so shut up and bare your arm now. It won't hurt a bit".

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    I've been reading some of the race information/instructions for UTMB, not that I'm entering, although I did the TMB more than 45 years ago. There appears to be a pretty thorough drugs policy with requirements to abstain from particular things that might not always be thought of as banned for a period before the race and a drugs testing policy. Let's hope it never comes to that over here.

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    Where's CL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellbeast View Post
    Never mind taking the illegal enhancing stuff, isn’t today’s mine field more about what you can take legally? You know painkillers, caffeine, nicotine, asthma medication, keto supplements, beetroot juice and bicorbonate of soda? Plus boosters of supplements that naturally occur in food that are allowable but are taken in big doses far in excess of any natural occurrence? Specific diet plans, oxygen deprivation training, the list goes on. Worst of all there’s always those annoying bastards that train harder than anyone else and/or were born genetically fitter than anyone else
    Beetroot shots and coffee first thing in the morning - tick; protein spread throughout the day - tick; carbs and protein ASAP after training - tick; Vitamin D replacement dose as recommended by the NHS - tick. It very quickly becomes routine, but all legal. I can understand how high dose supplements - and more - would also become routine - that nightly micro-dose injection of EPO a la Armstrong?

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    I have multi-vitamin and zinc in the morning, protein powder morning and evening, and glucosamine sulphate too. I assume all legal. I should probably check... the odd fell race which has governance by BA/UKA (the inter-counties for example) does carry the potential of being tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    ...glucosamine sulphate...
    I used to take this. My physiotherapist thought it was a good idea.

    When I had an operation on my knee my surgeon, who specialised in knee surgery and was nothing if not brutally frank, said it was a complete waste of money and I would get more benefit from spending the money saved on a holiday.

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    This is an interesting take on supplements https://www.informationisbeautiful.n...ents-vizsweet/

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