Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
I was well aware of this site, but decided not to share it as I thought it might be a rabbit hole too far to lose hours of time down ...



What you didn't mention, and I only found out a few days ago, was that as well as launching Dura-Ace R9200, Shimano also launched Ultegra R8100, which is also a fully electronic 12 speed groupset

The real question then, is why anyone would buy the 12 speed electronic R9200 for a street price of around £3000, when they could buy the technically same, (but slightly heavier), 12 speed electronic R8100 for a street price of around £2000.
Indeed but this begs the question of whether Shimano expect to actually sell many Dura-Ace sets (outside arrangements with Pro teams) or whether it is more about creating an image for the wealthy. Madison (the distributors) claim they will sell every set they receive.