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    Threatening to leave a good NHS job is easy, actually carrying it out not quite so. When partner or family point out the mortgage payments, pension, decent wages and having to go out there and find another job.
    It is easy to threaten to walk away but far easier to not risk everything and have a little jab instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travs View Post
    Definitely at football you can get in with a negative test, and don't "need" to have the vaccine passport.

    Although agree on the management of it... tales abound of people just being waved through the turnstiles.
    I was at the Hawthorns for the Cardiff game and although stewards were asking everyone to make sure they had their covid pass ready to be checked, nobody actually checked it anyway. Likewise, mask wearing in enclosed spaces was not being enforced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteS View Post
    I was at the Hawthorns for the Cardiff game and although stewards were asking everyone to make sure they had their covid pass ready to be checked, nobody actually checked it anyway. Likewise, mask wearing in enclosed spaces was not being enforced.
    I hope you weren't mixing with all those Boyo's from Moley's lockdown central who were on day release!
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    Quote Originally Posted by molehill View Post
    Threatening to leave a good NHS job is easy, actually carrying it out not quite so. When partner or family point out the mortgage payments, pension, decent wages and having to go out there and find another job.
    It is easy to threaten to walk away but far easier to not risk everything and have a little jab instead.
    And how does being coerced in to a medical procedure in order to keep the wolves from the door fit in to the principal of "informed consent"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    And how does being coerced in to a medical procedure in order to keep the wolves from the door fit in to the principal of "informed consent"?
    OK, so no-one takes on any job that may ever result in them having to undergo any medical procedure to keep themselves or others safe. Then we don't have an Army to defend the country (at Christmas I was chatting to my nephew who is an Army officer about the vaccinations that he has had before being deployed to various "unhealthy" parts of the world). We don't have anyone going into the medical or nursing professions, because they may need vaccinations to protect themselves. And I'm sure there are other examples.

    The informed consent is when you sign the contract starting the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witton Park View Post
    And how does being coerced in to a medical procedure in order to keep the wolves from the door fit in to the principal of "informed consent"?
    Sometimes in life you've just got to suck it up. Or walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonykay View Post
    OK, so no-one takes on any job that may ever result in them having to undergo any medical procedure to keep themselves or others safe. Then we don't have an Army to defend the country (at Christmas I was chatting to my nephew who is an Army officer about the vaccinations that he has had before being deployed to various "unhealthy" parts of the world). We don't have anyone going into the medical or nursing professions, because they may need vaccinations to protect themselves. And I'm sure there are other examples.

    The informed consent is when you sign the contract starting the job.
    My dentist was in the army for 15 years or more (obviously the army cannot have soldiers with teeth problems when fighting wars) before he left to go into private practice and he was telling me how he was trained to shoot etc. He served in Afghanistan and elsewhere. Now he didn't join the army to kill people but he knew the rifle he was taught to use wasn't for decorating his surgery.

    And I assume he read all the small print before he took the Queen's shilling.
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    Except that Army recruits DON'T have to agree to vaccinations. I was astonished to hear, while talking to a neighbour's son on New Year's Eve, who has been in the Army for 3 years, that soldiers do have the option to refuse the jab - some have. He explained that he is due to be posted to Germany and then Estonia and that members of his regiment who have not been vaccinated obviously aren't able to travel abroad. The 'punishment', according to him, was that this would negatively affect their promotion options, due to reduced experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossdog View Post
    Except that Army recruits DON'T have to agree to vaccinations. I was astonished to hear, while talking to a neighbour's son on New Year's Eve, who has been in the Army for 3 years, that soldiers do have the option to refuse the jab - some have. He explained that he is due to be posted to Germany and then Estonia and that members of his regiment who have not been vaccinated obviously aren't able to travel abroad. The 'punishment', according to him, was that this would negatively affect their promotion options, due to reduced experience.
    and many of them aren't happy bunnies.

    US and UK Gulf War Veterans are believed to be up to 1/3 suffering ill health linked to the cocktail of up to 9 vaccinations given.

    The National Gulf Veterans and Families Association has been assisting veterans in actions against the MoD and some have received compensation payouts.

    They have been unable to get hold of the medical records for 1,000s of veterans as the MoD says they have been "inadvertently destroyed".

    https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne...vaccine-claim/

    Experimental jabs → lack of informed consent → serious side effects → compensation from the tax payer → those responsible untouchable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mossdog View Post
    The 'punishment', according to him, was that this would negatively affect their promotion options, due to reduced experience.
    That's a rather pleasant way of expressing the army's displeasure.

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