I don't know what this means. We of course get foreign DNA in our system on a daily basis - every time we clean our teeth or even chew something, as well as with other activities/processes. I cannot believe that multiple experts would not be all over this if it really was a problem.Originally Posted by Mossdog
ah well, that's OK then. Stick any old shit in to us intravenously
By the way, multiple experts are all over it if you take the time to look for them, because largely the Blob has isolated them, just like with other uniparty issues.
Richard Taylor
"William Tell could take an apple off your head. Taylor could take out a processed pea."
Sid Waddell
That's a good point. I don't know what it means either. But if the WHO has a recommended level for contamination one presumes that having too much is bad.
Philip Buckhaults is a cancer genomics expert, and professor at the University of South Carolina who has testified before a South Carolina Senate Medical Affairs Ad-Hoc Committee saying that Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine is contaminated with billions of tiny DNA fragments. He has concerns.
https://brownstone.org/articles/rese...fizer-vaccine/
The BMJ back in 2021 also had some concerns about the quality of the vaccine production process.
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n627
Is this a big deal? I don't know.
Yes, like you say, our bodies are exposed to foreign DNA all the time. But the difference between ingesting say, a Gregg's pasty orally, and having it injected into your body is that the LNPs ( lipid nanoparticles ) in the jabs enable material to get through the cell membrane, which normally would be kept out.
Apparently, the essential components of LNP are man-made. It seems that their use in humans was forbidden prior to 2020. This rule was changed with the emergency use approval of the COVID RNA-vaccines. The packaging material is essential to protect RNA from destruction so that it can travel in the bloodstream to reach all organs of the body. They are taken up by cells and their cargo is then released. Production of the spike protein and triggering of the immune response follow, leading to formation of specific antibodies that are supposed to protect against future infections.
From what I've read, once DNA has been aided into the cell, there is a chance (presumedly very very small)of it influencing with your own code and stuff being activated or deactivated that results in bad news for health.
Of course, all medical treatments, from simple to complex entail an element of risk, and we make our choices for treatment following our own judgement of the risk, but supported by our trust, or otherwise, in the experts. I find it very difficult to navigate between sources of information which imply that we shouldn't worry our little heads and rest assured that the pharmaceutical companies have our best interests at heart, and the other extreme of some rabid, swivelled eyed anti-vaxxers and they supporters claiming an evil global conspiracy. But I do know that medical mistakes happen and that the authorities have a very poor track record of coming clean (no pun intended) with the public about these until well after the event(s).
All very confusing, but interesting too. Food for thought (and that's orally not intravenously)
Am Yisrael Chai
That's a good point. I don't know what it means either. But if the WHO has a recommended level for contamination one presumes that having too much is bad.
Philip Buckhaults is a cancer genomics expert, and professor at the University of South Carolina who has testified before a South Carolina Senate Medical Affairs Ad-Hoc Committee saying that Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine is contaminated with billions of tiny DNA fragments. He has concerns.
https://brownstone.org/articles/rese...fizer-vaccine/
The BMJ back in 2021 also had some concerns about the quality of the vaccine production process.
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n627
Is this a big deal? I don't know.
Yes, like you say, our bodies are exposed to foreign DNA all the time. But the difference between ingesting say, a Gregg's pasty orally, and having it injected into your body is that the LNPs ( lipid nanoparticles ) in the jabs enable material to get through the cell membrane, which normally would be kept out.
Apparently, the essential components of LNP are man-made. It seems that their use in humans was forbidden prior to 2020. This rule was changed with the emergency use approval of the COVID RNA-vaccines. The packaging material is essential to protect RNA from destruction so that it can travel in the bloodstream to reach all organs of the body. They are taken up by cells and their cargo is then released. Production of the spike protein and triggering of the immune response follow, leading to formation of specific antibodies that are supposed to protect against future infections.
From what I've read, once DNA has been aided into the cell, there is a chance (presumedly very very small)of it influencing with your own code and stuff being activated or deactivated that results in bad news for health.
Of course, all medical treatments, from simple to complex entail an element of risk, and we make our choices for treatment following our own judgement of the risk, but supported by our trust, or otherwise, in the experts. I find it very difficult to navigate between sources of information which imply that we shouldn't worry our little heads and rest assured that the pharmaceutical companies have our best interests at heart, and the other extreme of some rabid, swivelled eyed anti-vaxxers and they supporters claiming an evil global conspiracy. But I do know that medical mistakes happen and that the authorities have a very poor track record of coming clean (no pun intended) with the public about these until well after the event(s).
All very confusing, but interesting too. Food for thought (and that's orally not intravenously)
Am Yisrael Chai
I have had a look - I guess it depends on whom you regard as an expert - this is interesting:ah well, that's OK then. Stick any old shit in to us intravenously
By the way, multiple experts are all over it if you take the time to look for them, because largely the Blob has isolated them, just like with other uniparty issues.
https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/...d-19-vaccines/
I've seen his testimony I think it was to State Senate. It almost felt like a cry for help. He has concerns, he feels testing should be done, he doesn't feel if he does that it will be treated as impartial because of the way others have been treated that have raised concerns.
What is a common thread whether Dr Tess Lawrie, Dr Peter McCullough, Dr Robert Malone.... is that they were respected in their field until they decided to ask questions.
Last edited by Witton Park; 25-09-2023 at 04:00 PM.
Richard Taylor
"William Tell could take an apple off your head. Taylor could take out a processed pea."
Sid Waddell
Surely an expert is someone who takes advice from Witton Park?
I'm raising questions not providing answers Graham.Surely an expert is someone who takes advice from Witton Park?
I had a discussion with an IEA guy Chris Snowdon (regular TV and radio pundit) almost 2 years ago about lockdowns, timing of them, benefit of them.
We were also discussing the difficulty of real analysis because of "with covid" and he assured me that in a couple of years time we'll be able to see the full effect of the pandemic with regards to mortality as we'll see the peaks in excess deaths in 2020 & 2021 and then the drop off in those rates to below trend in 2022 and 2023 before a rebalance to trend.
It seemed fair enough.
There hasn't been a drop off though. See link.
and you can see all ages and then break down by age. Turquoise is excess deaths.
Since Spring 2022 there has hardly been a week without excess deaths. In fact if you look at 0-24 the situation is worse over the last 18 months than the previous 18 months.
What is causing it?
100s of young people dying when compared to trend.
So I'm asking why. I have an idea but what concerns me is for so long we had a daily count up of deaths in the UK and now when it is worse in almost all age groups of working age, grasshoppers.
No expert, just the figures and something is seriously wrong.
Richard Taylor
"William Tell could take an apple off your head. Taylor could take out a processed pea."
Sid Waddell
That's a good point Mike. I don't know what it means either. But if the WHO has a recommended level for contamination one presumes that having too much is bad.
Philip Buckhaults is a cancer genomics expert, and professor at the University of South Carolina who has testified before a South Carolina Senate Medical Affairs Ad-Hoc Committee saying that Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine is contaminated with billions of tiny DNA fragments. He has concerns.
https://brownstone.org/articles/rese...fizer-vaccine/
The BMJ back in 2021 also had some concerns about the quality of the vaccine production process.
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n627
Is this a big deal? I don't know.
Yes, like you say, our bodies are exposed to foreign DNA all the time. But the difference between ingesting say, a Gregg's pasty orally, and having it injected into your body is that the LNPs ( lipid nanoparticles ) in the jabs enable material to get through the cell membrane, which normally would be kept out.
Apparently, the essential components of LNP are man-made. It seems that their use in humans was forbidden prior to 2020. This rule was changed with the emergency use approval of the COVID RNA-vaccines. The packaging material is essential to protect RNA from destruction so that it can travel in the bloodstream to reach all organs of the body. They are taken up by cells and their cargo is then released. Production of the spike protein and triggering of the immune response follow, leading to formation of specific antibodies that are supposed to protect against future infections.
From what I've read, once DNA has been aided into the cell, there is a chance (presumedly very very small)of it influencing with your own code and stuff being activated or deactivated that results in bad news for health.
Of course, all medical treatments, from simple to complex entail an element of risk, and we make our choices for treatment following our own judgement of the risk, but supported by our trust, or otherwise, in the experts. I find it very difficult to navigate between sources of information which imply that we shouldn't worry our little heads and rest assured that the pharmaceutical companies have our best interests at heart, and the other extreme of some rabid, swivelled eyed anti-vaxxers and they supporters claiming an evil global conspiracy. But I do know that medical mistakes happen and that the authorities have a very poor track record of coming clean (no pun intended) with the public about these until well after the event(s).
All very confusing, but interesting too. Food for thought (and that's orally not intravenously)
Am Yisrael Chai
Yes, the graphs are worrying, but there is no suggestion that the continuing excess deaths are anything to do with Covid or the subject of this thread, the Covid vaccinations. So why are so many young people dying?
Actually, there are all sorts of reasons why young people could be suffering from poor mental health (which would tend to cause poor physical health). One of those reasons is the disruption that Covid has caused, to their social lives as well as their education. There is the cost-of-living crisis (leading to poor diet, etc.). They may be depressed because the dysfunctional housing market means that they are never likely to be able to get a house of their own. Or they may just be depressed after 13 years of the Tories in Government . . . .
But it is worth investigating.
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