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[skyline]

this applies to all those who have ran for years but put a map in their hands and they start chanting "Never Eat Shredded Wheat" at you

but I don't eat maps or Shredded Wheat, so where does that leave me ......

[IanDarkpeak]

People are still pussyfooting around this situation. If you cannot navigate you shouldn't enter the longer races! SIMPLE. This does not just apply to the so called "refugees" this applies to all those who have ran for years but put a map in their hands and they start chanting "Never Eat Shredded Wheat" at you.

Perhaps we ought to have No Women Shall Enter

On the long races you shouldn't be there if you don't know how to map read. The Skyline race is easier than most as it is a loop , Keep the Valley on your right and you can't go to far wrong.

[skyline]

The Skyline race is easier than most as it is a loop , Keep the Valley on your right and you can't go to far wrong.

well it didn't stop me getting lost 3 years ago. At least I took a dozen the wrong way with me. Incidentally, Ian, Richard is ordering a set of Dark Peak vests printed with your mobile number on them. Do you want one?

[Stolly]

Perhaps we ought to have No Women Shall Enter

On the long races you shouldn't be there if you don't know how to map read. The Skyline race is easier than most as it is a loop , Keep the Valley on your right and you can't go to far wrong.

The irony of all this is that I've never come close to getting lost in a race whereas I regularly have 'where the hell am I going' moments running solo .

Lets face it getting lost is seriously difficult amid a bunch of anything between 100 and 600 runners, with marshalls and spectators dotted about, armed with a whistle, a compass and a map and a fairly good idea of the ground you've covered, if not the ground ahead, added to the fact that the race might well be a horseshoe or a loop that might well include some low(er) ground as well as high ground and, if not on paths or trods, will be in places where paths can be found or expected. Its only when you get a blizzard (especially) or severe clag that things could be more difficult but just staying with the other runners (behind if those in front can't be reached) or asking for help are still far from actions of last resort.

[IanDarkpeak]

well it didn't stop me getting lost 3 years ago. At least I took a dozen the wrong way with me. Incidentally, Ian, Richard is ordering a set of Dark Peak vests printed with your mobile number on them. Do you want one?

But I thought that was a tactical manoever

Are you back from your travels yet?

[david]

Lets face it getting lost is seriously difficult

You might live to regret that statement .

[No map, no compass]

Lets face it getting lost is seriously difficult amid a bunch of anything between 100 and 600 runners, with marshalls and spectators dotted about

Yeah, right, obviously the voice of years of experience...

[Stolly]

Yeah, right, obviously the voice of years of experience...

I've actually got years of experience...... of getting lost.

[No map, no compass]

I've actually got years of experience...... of getting lost.

But have presumably been very lucky in races.

I can assure you that it is very easy to get lost in a race in thick clag, probably much easier than when out on your own, as you tend to have your head down and are following whoever is in front, until they disappear along with the trod

This can happen even when you have done the race several times before, reccied it the week before and are a competent navigator.

[Stolly]

But have presumably been very lucky in races.

I can assure you that it is very easy to get lost in a race in thick clag, probably much easier than when out on your own, as you tend to have your head down and are following whoever is in front, until they disappear along with the trod

This can happen even when you have done the race several times before, reccied it the week before and are a competent navigator.

Fair comment. I guess I've only run a dozen or so actual fell races over say 9 or 10 different fell race routes so what do I know. That said I've run a gazzilion miles solo in all sorts - I find due to the nature of fell running that you're always running looking at the ground 8 feet in front of you and its extremely easy to miss paths and trods, treblely so in clag and awful weather; like I said, I've had a fair few navigational holes to dig myself out of running solo thats for sure.

Getting slightly back to the point I guess I was trying to make (in a crap way as usual ) running solo, on the whole, has more risks than running in a race.