not going to get chance to recce, that's not too much of a handicap is it?
Without wishing to curse myself before the off, when there's lots of CPs, there's generally less scope to go wrong in between them.
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not going to get chance to recce, that's not too much of a handicap is it?
Without wishing to curse myself before the off, when there's lots of CPs, there's generally less scope to go wrong in between them.
Zed, the further you get into the race the more chance there is of going off-course. Suggest you have a look at the race map (at www.cvfr.co.uk) and familarise yourself with the lie of the land and where the final couple of checkpoints are ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
Im marshalling with Manhar
will-do squire - the reseacrh starts here, on a nice quiet monday at work ... :wink:
I would say without a recce it makes a tough race, alot harder in this particular case, but it will be fun none the less! :)
Just hope for high cloud, thats what I'm hoping for!
I would say without a recce it makes a tough race, alot harder in this particular case, but it will be fun none the less! :)
Just hope for high cloud, thats what I'm hoping for!
oh yes much harder- if you but a bit of effort in its harder than the 3 peaks in my opinion, it just grinds you down.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
righto, thanks for the pep talk lads!
It looks like I'm doing this now :). Is it all right to take along the map from the Calderdale web site does anyone know? Or do I have to buy a proper OS map?
I used a high quality print off last year, worked really well for me.
See you at the race.
That'll be fine Stolly. Just don't follow the route exactly as its drawn. It's only a guide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
See you there thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Prepare yourself for a twatting :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
the 'north-west loop' (CPs 4-10) looks on the map like it's mainly along paths? The triangle (CPs 1-3, 11-12) looks to be the cross country section? bit.
For me, the tricky parts were:
CP2 to CP3 - with the cloud down, and nothing in the way of real paths, it was a slog through very boggy and tussocky ground.
The north west loop you talk about its not too bad, as it is mainly on the paths, remember to stray off the path and up the hill to find CP9 Shackleton Knoll though, its literally just dotted somewhere on the hillside near the top.
CP11 to CP12 - this takes some navigating to find the little trods, again with cloud down, but not too bad.
CP12 to CP13 - from what i gathered, some tend to take various routes here, I was passed a couple of times by people who had gone wrong between these CPs.
Then the last bit is a killer, but its flagged :)
cheers hursty, that's helpful :)
Cheers Hursty, wish I hadn't entered now!! :w00t:
(You never know I may be too late & it may be full!!)
Ah give over, you'll love it!
But its what fell running is all about, its a really tough race, which in my book, means good! :)
Thats why people come back to these races year after year, the challenge.
:thumbup: The closing date for entries to the Trog have been extended to Saturday 5th February or until the race limit of 200 is reached. A full entry list will be published on Sunday 7th February. Can you please car share ... it's much greener and we are tight for parking. Thanks:)
Given "twat" is common slang for a female body part, are you a post op transsexual making me an offer I can't refuse ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Ah but I wasn't using the female body part, the derogatory epithet, forest clearing or even the item of nun's clothing meanings :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
Quote:
Twat
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The word twat has various functions. It is a vulgar synonym for the human vulva, vagina, or clitoris, but is more widely used as a derogatory epithet, especially in British English. The word may originate from Old Norse þveit meaning cut, slit, or forest clearing.
Historical usage Robert Browning famously misused the term in his 1841 poem "Pippa Passes", believing it to be an item of nun's clothing:
Then owls and bats
Cowls and twats
Monks and nuns in a cloister's moods
Adjourn to the oak-stump pantry
Its meaning was in reality the same then as now, Browning's misconception probably having arisen from a line in a 1660 satirical poem, Vanity of Vanities:
They talk't of his having a Cardinalls Hat
They'd send him as soon an Old Nuns Twat
Another mistaken (or perhaps dialectal) use was in Edward Bulwer-Lytton's 1870 science fiction novel The Coming Race, in an apparent satire on Darwin:
Among the pithy sayings which, according to tradition, the philosopher bequeathed to posterity in rhythmical form and sententious brevity, this is notably recorded: "Humble yourselves, my descendants; the father of your race was a 'twat' (tadpole): exalt yourselves, my descendants, for it was the same Divine Thought which created your father that develops itself in exalting you."
Modern usage
Road sign pointing to Twatt, Shetland which was rated no. 4 of the most vulgar-sounding names in Rude Britain, along with its Orkney counterpart. Although sometimes used as a reference to the female genitalia, the word twat is more often used in various other ways:
As a derogatory insult, a pejorative meaning a fool, synonymous with the word twit - 'You are a real twat and a half' (often used in the UK)
To hit something (or someone) hard or violently - 'Let's get out there and twat it!'
In August 2008, the publisher of a children's book, My Sister Jodie by Jacqueline Wilson, decided to reprint the word 'twat' as 'twit' in future editions of the novel so as not to offend readers or their parents.
In a radio interview on 29 July 2009, the Conservative leader, David Cameron apologized for any offence caused after he used the word "twat" on live radio during a breakfast radio show interview on Absolute Radio:
"The trouble with Twitter, the instantness of it – too many twits might make a twat."
He attempted to play down the incident, and added: "I was doing a radio interview and I'm sure that people will understand that."
Thank you , I have received a written threat from Stolly - mlud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Handbags at dawn:rolleyes:
Anyway, back to more serious things......I've been asked to post this message.....
“Closing Date for Wadsworth Trog entries have been extended to Saturday 5th Feb or to the race limit of 200. Please car share as it’s much greener and we are very tight on parking space. Thank you”.
So a written threat from Stolly to hit me hard and violently is not serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Stagger
Nope, I sure we could find a few people that would like to do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
Not serious; seriously funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
I'm organising a recce on Sunday 6th Feb, meeting up at Oldtown at 9.00.
All the details are here
Let me know on this thread if you're planning on joining us, that way we know to wait for you!
All are welcome, especially anyone local!
Yes please, see you then.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyA
Just to add you mention on the linked blog that you will not being doing the start loop - does that only apply to the full not the half?
I hope you are not impugning his manhood - he may threaten you next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Not sure what you mean; I think the start loop is on both races, I'm just omitting it because it' a bit pointless and will save some time for exploring the tricky stuff. We'll do the rest of the half trog as that covers those last few checkpoints of both races.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
oh yeah that reminds me - there's a confusing bit in the marked route for the final stretch on the 'official map' on the CVFR site. It looks to me like it's giving three alternative routes to get from the Wood End CP to the finish?
Any views on which one to take?
Or does it somehow involve the Start - I was thinking from looking at the map that you started straight off north-westwards, past the reg / finish point and onto CP1?
No, you start heading south. Have a look at the start and finish maps on the website - makes it clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
ah OK, taQuote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
Start is a manic downhill sprint before the congestion of the clough. Bananas really, given how long the race is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
That's fine and everybody is bunched all through that loop, unless you did it but came up the finish route back to the mill just so newbies could see what a pig the finish is , then do the rest of the half. But pretty sure that the loop is not part of the half course. Can a stagger clan member confirm for completeness please.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyA
No, you start heading north on the Half Trog. Have a look at the Half Trog maps on the website - makes it clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
The Half Trog starts up the hill (North).
The Full Trog starts down t'hill (South).
As I thoughtQuote:
Originally Posted by Flightless Bird
The finish is a difficult one. Think Ive done it three times and gone wrong at somepoint everytime.
But yes def save a bit for that last steep section.
You really need to take plenty of food on board as this one is a slog and then some.
Very well organised. A recce is a good idea. Last year or year before it was a trudge through the snow. Remember falling over seven times. Dont forget to visit all the checkpoints.