Thanks Jim,Quote:
Originally Posted by Moorlander
I will work on brining the list up todate.
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Thanks Jim,Quote:
Originally Posted by Moorlander
I will work on brining the list up todate.
Sunday was my 4th run on this route , First one was at easter , helped with some great route advice from Jonathan , Dale , Robin and co. , all who've done it many times before. Wasn't great weather but a really good run out.
Next couple of times were early summer and did a 3h28m on a good day and a 3h38m when I got it wrong coming off Burbage in the mist.
Sunday I set off in clear but cold conditions from the Cat & Fiddle for another anticlockwise run. Thoughts of a getting decent time , and the knowledge that Dale has recently done a fast one , kept me going to finish in 3h24m, tired but really enjoyed it.
Was a good day for it , I met Anthony and Tracey who were just heading out on the same route from C&F when I'd finished , hope it went well for them.
Excellent Run Fell Zebra ( is that you Brian). When I did my 3hrs 26 it was a beatiful summers day and bone dry all the way. I bet you had to cope with loads of bogs and cold weather to. Plus it was day after NSXCL eh?
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Originally Posted by Fellzebra
Yes Dale its me, ...it was cold - think was 2 degrees when I parked up, so not a day to be hanging about long. Very wet on the bit between Wildboarclough and crossing the Buxton road and on some bits coming off Axe edge and around Burbage , but it could have been worse, prob a good day up there for November really.
Does this make it look like I didn't try hard enough at the sat XC?!
Yes..............................
Does this make it look like I didn't try hard enough at the sat XC?![/QUOTE]
Did this on Saturday. I was hoping to get under 5 hours but had to settle for 5:16. Conditions were not exactly conducive to a fast time, particularly for someone unfamiliar with the route. The combination of poor visibility and snow cover meant that I failed to find any trods on Axe Edge, and the wooded section on the way to Shining Tor was exceedingly boggy. None the less an enjoyable day out, hopefully next time I might get a view from at least 1 of the 5 trigs!
Recent weeks / months training has been in preparation for HPM, Edale Skyline, 4 Inns so with those out of the way and a day off work , Friday seemed like an ideal opportunity for another run around the 5 trigs. I was off at about 7.45 in clear conditions going anticlockwise from the Cat&Fiddle. Am aware of the route choice but from Roaches trig I think the best way is the direct route off over the heather down to Goldstitch. Mostly dry conditions underfoot throughout , things were going ok and by Axe Edge trig was thinking of an improved time, although still some difficult running to do. Goyts quarry climb was hard work on tired legs, so glad to get to the top and on better running to Shining Tor. Cat&Fiddle doesn't look far from Shining Tor , but it felt a long way this time!
Finished very pleased, but tired in 3h13m03s, really enjoyed my morning out.
It went very well , great conditions for me , hardly anyone about either, this route is highly recommended for all.
Brilliant Time Brian, Of those reported thats a new Record. Faster than Spyke.
Im going this Saturday , but only at training pace as TWA next weekend
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Originally Posted by Fellzebra
Hi Moorlander
Is the list of completions/times available to see anywhere.
Apologies if I failed to notice it elsewhere in the thread
Gyppo
Still not got to updating the list yet, But this is Jims official list dating back to 2009.
There have been loads since including last weekends 3hrs 13 record by Brian L
Mike and I got round in 3hrs 47 today. wonderful weather and very enjoyable run out in preperation for next weeks TWA
1. Jim Cooke (2) 4:55 Staffs Moorlands
2. Steve Littlewood (1) 7:29 Stafford Harriers
3. Dora Deaville (1) 7:29 Staffs LDWA
4. Rod Campbell (3) 5:13 Staffs Moorlands
5. Roger Ashby (2) 5:13 Sale Harriers
6. Ian Ankers (1) 3:58 Staffs Moorlands
7. Dale Colclough (4) 4:34 Staffs Moorlands
8. Denise Broome (4) 4:34* Cheadle Harriers *ladies Record*
9. Dave Edge (5) 4:12 Staffs Moorlands
10. Jon Whilock (2) 4:12 Staffs Moorlands
11. Tony Vernon (1) 5:25 Staffs Moorlands
12. John Pickering (1) 6:12 Staffs Moorlands
13. Richard ? (1) 6:09 ?
14. Hazel ? (1) 6:09 ?
15. Steve Pyke (3) 3:20* Staffs Moorlands *Male Record*
16. Craig Jeffries (1) 4:10 Staffs Moorlands
17. Rob ? (Got Gravity) (2) 3:51 (Matlock)
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Originally Posted by Moorlander
Thanks Dale, I'm not suggesting that I'm anywhere near the same league as Spyke , just compare our times from Edale Skyline!
Have a good one at TWA on sat
went round today in 5:16
clockwise for a change
took a slight (semi-intentional) diversion between Gradbach and Wildboarclough by going via summit of Birchenough Hill - found a touching little memorial to a war-time plane wreck
also took the hit of the extra ascent to do the "south blob" of Axe Edge - partly because of my obsession with the Mersey Watershed http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/forum/...erd_smiley.gif, but mostly to use the trot along the ridge to take in the awesome view out over Chrome Hill to the Dove valley and (basically) the whole of the White Peak http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/forum/...hot_smiley.gif
I so love this route - for it's own sake, as a good training run and if done repeatedly as a good benchmark of fitness
I've been eyeing this route up for a while now, and am going to give it a go one of the second or third weekends in June (unless I can sneak a day off work and do it then, lol) - probably start from the unofficial parking next to the road at the north end of the Roaches. It looks a great route Dale, and at my pace I'll have time to enjoy the views from it too!
Well, I finally got around to doing this, anticlockwise from Roach End. It was warm today, so ran out of fluids just after Shutlingsloe, but took a cheeky re-fill at the YHA at Gradbach! Dry underfoot much of the way, though didn't find good lines around Axe Edge at all, and took a couple of minor detours elsewhere too. But overall pleased enough with a 4.52 as I stopped quite a few times to take in the excellent views...it just had to be done.
Well done Phil about time. you will have to come with me some time and I will show you the fine lines.
Im off up there on Saturday for 5 Trigs plus some extra miles in prep for the Lakes 100
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Originally Posted by phil the bat
The Gritstone Any time Challege took on a different look for me today. I am training for the Lakes 100, so thought that adding an additional Trig would be a good idea to get in a few extra miles.
We went Anticlockwise from the Cat and Fiddle, taking in Shutlinslow, The Roaches and then on over Hen Cloud and up to Ramshore rocks, before crossing the main road and making our way up to the Mermaid in and on to the Trig. From there, we ran along the road to the Winking man and then over the paths back to the usual route to Axe Edge vis Flash.
The additional Trig adds around 7 miles and quite a bit of additional climbing.
Time 5hrs 30mins was pretty relaxed.
hi, you didn't mention which trig but i guess you went to morridge top. i hold the the world record for leek monument to morridge top. john pickering is the the only other guy to have ran it so a very elite club.
jonathan.
Had a lovely jog around this route last Friday.
Enjoyed the day with a fellow PFR member. Took us 5:11 min (21 mins faster than last time). I was hoping for faster but we did a lot of talking to a number of folk (Great to meet you Jim!!!) and I went for a roll down one of the hills and had to deal with a badly cut finger.
I’ll be back to do this again before Xmas.
I start this at the roaches and run clockwise as per everyone else. When I get to flash bottom I go left and head across to Gib Tor then to Shawtop and round the back of the roaches to the car. I suppose it is a bit lazy as it saves a drive to the cat and fiddle.
Last time out I met Moorlander and the Master on their 6 trig route. An interesting day out with blazing sun and driving rain in the company of Mikey P.
I think I'll be having a go at this on Sunday. Maybe I'll take in Merryton Low too - see how I feel on the Roaches. It took me 4:25 last time I tried it (without Merryton Low) - I'm probably not as fit this time, but then it's not going to be too hot this time either. I suppose I'll be aiming for an 8:00 start from the Cat & Fiddle if anyone wants to come along.
Had a crack at this today, a bit wet in some places but for November it doesnt get much better than it was today. Managed to get round in 3hrs 29mins so a pleasing run out. The last long climb out of the Goyt Vallley was tough for me. Think I need to come out with you Dale to have a look at the lines you take sometime. :w00t:
Excellent run that, Ant ( never as easy in winter). I will need to get fit before we go round together. Early next year it will make for an excellent training route in preperation for the 50/100. ( 2 laps for me ha ha )
ps start and finish at Goldstich and getting the road bit done on fresh legs seemed to help me.
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Originally Posted by Dorian Grey
Went round the 6 Trigs in 6:22. Not as fast as I'd have liked, but about what I expected I suppose. It was a glorious day though, and I can't remember the last time I got sunburnt in November. No sign of Dorian Grey on my way round: I must have blinked & missed him.
I dont do early starts if I can help it, ha. So I didnt start trotting from the Cat & Fiddle until 10:15am. But that seemed to work well as it give time for the mist around Flash to burn off. I kept on the road all the way until the U turn of the main road that leads you over the cattle grid back to C&F and then took a beeline for the Axe Edge trig. Not sure if that was a bad idea or a good idea, it seemed to work ok. I like your idea of getting the road done first Dale. Yeah we will book a run in then for next year. As you said good training for the Lakeland series....and yes defo 2 laps for you! ha
Splits were 31:40 Shuttlingsloe, then 49:57 to Roaches, 57:26 to Axe Edge, 22:47 to Burbage, 37:11 to Shinning Tor (3hrs 19mins running time at this point), then the 10minute run in.
:w00t:
I left the Cat & Fiddle at about 8:20, & took the scenic options. For the record: Shutlingsloe 40:43, Roaches 1:47, Merryton Low 3:12, Axe Edge 4:46, Burbage Edge 5:16, Shining Tor 6:06, C&F 6:22. From the Roaches I went between Hen Cloud & Ramshaw Rocks, via Well Farm, Naychurch, Swainsmoor. Some time lost for routefinding here as it was misty & the paths not obvious, but it avoided some road running. Good for running though in the main, so this bit should be faster next time. I avoided running on the A53, going north via Gib Tor farm, Flash Bottom, Flash, Oliver Hill & the path to the west of the south bit of Axe Edge.
re road section
if you do it clockwise from C&F, the road section (Flash to Goldsitch) acts as a kind of "interval" to the route, is mostly downhill and doesn't seem so much of a chore
Ha, very good point Daz. I never even thought about going clockwise! I will have to give it a try; it would be interesting to see how the splits differ.
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Records show that Clockwise is the slower option. Ive gone both ways several times and it took longer Clockwise.
I think its all to do with climbing shuttlingsloe on tired legs... be interested to here if any one knows different.
Excellent run on the six trigs by splacher. I must have another go next year
Ha, very good point Daz. I never even thought about going clockwise! I will have to give it a try; it would be interesting to see how the splits differ.
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Originally Posted by DazTheSlug
Give me a shout when you are thinking of going in the new year. struggling a bit with a hamstring at moment so need to ease back. Bye the way I went round the Calton Fell race route last Sunday and the fog never burnt back. Infact it was so dense at times that I couldnt find Soles Hill! had to miss it out and go straight back to Calton. Good navigation skills eh!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorian Grey
Had my eye on doing this all year. Went round last Saturday as replecement for cancelled Tankys. Went clockwise in cold and windy conditions with a few showers thrown in for good measure in the first couple of hours. Finished in 4:57, quite happy given the conditions and the fact that I took the scenic option from Axe Edge to the Roaches and went via 3 Shires Head and Gradbach!! Last 2 climbs up Shutlingsloe and up to the C&F were hard work. Enjoyed the route and may well come back in the spring for an anti-clockwise round, probably still keep the scenic bits in though.
Finally got around to giving this a crack yesterday,clockwise, lovely route, excellent views, it was a bit chilly on the summits, feet were like blocks of ice, was glad to get some warmth back in them on the road section from Flash.
Finish time 4:37, made a few mistakes on route choice, with a bit less mud hopefully should knock a chunk off next time!
Hi Wain,Quote:
Originally Posted by Wain
Nice one. Its a great route.
Please let me know if/when you do it again.
Cheers
Tim
Hey Tim,
Happy New Year!!
Took your advice and started from the Cragg Inn, getting shuttlow out of way first, good thinking!
Watching the sun set from the roaches on the way back was magic!
Will be having another go soon, will give you a shout.
Sounds like you had a great run :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wain
What a beautiful round! Had a go today - very dry underfoot, started at Goldstitch, going clockwise. It took me 4:19, dogs are still sleeping. Will have a go again, to try to see what can be done to avoid the road section.
I decided to do this yesterday instead of driving for 3.5 hours to and back from Pendle Cloughs. I'd done the 4 trigs last weekend, so just needed to add in The Roaches this time. I did it in 4:08, starting from my house (between Roaches) and Shutlingsloe and then going clockwise.
I've been trying to decide whether the route I took from Axe Edge to Roaches is the fastest or not. I did consider going via Flash or nearer to Three Shires Head. I've had a bit of a play on Anquet, and the way I took is the fastest according to my unmodified Naysmith. If you're going to try this, the tricky bit is 018669 to 017661. I've done this on a few other runs, so know it reasonably well, but you might need a 1:50,000 for this bit.
I've attached a screengrab of the route. From Axe trig, I followed the good path vaguely South to the road, then you can cut across near the grouse butts to pick up the other path. Attachment 6093
I've done this once and going to have a go again next week. Last time I got confused in the goyt valley - so when you drop down from Burbage edge to the road to pick up the path to head up to shining tor do you go right or left on the road to find the path
er... straight across the road!Quote:
Originally Posted by maddaddy
there's a trod (not marked on map) that goes diagonally up to the right to the gate into the woods at 01365 73028
oh, and wrt noel's route, it's worth being aware that there's sometimes grouse shooting along Drystone Edge and if the red flags are out you'll have to use the Dane Valley Way instead
Thanks - last time got round the rest ok but made a real mess in the goyt valley - I will find that trod and ignore the mapQuote:
Originally Posted by DazTheSlug