That is my normal breathing pattern when running or power walking - what is yours when you just let it do its own thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
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That is my normal breathing pattern when running or power walking - what is yours when you just let it do its own thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Mine too. I once read a book called The art of running faster by Julian Goater (ironically a prize for coming second in a race). In it, he recommends breathing in for three steps, out for three steps. I tried it quite a bit, but I find it slows me down. And I can't do it at all on uphill sections.
I used to run XC with, or rather some distance behind, Julian Goater when I was in the RAF.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
It gets out of control, it gets hyperventilating style rapid, it's always done that and i've only recently started to question this after reading the oxygen advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
I was recently recommended 'Breath' by James Nestor.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Out of interest I was paying far more attention to my breathing than I usually do on today's outing. R-L in; R-L out is certainly my normal pattern when running. I can comfortably breathe twice as fast as that, or half as fast as that, but it very quickly goes back to R-L in; R-L out. In fact when I power walk up a hill it is usually R in; L out; R in; L out and so on.
6m flat at 8.00mmp with Horsforth Harriers last night. Felt better than the last outing at this pace, and kept to 2 in 2 out stride/breath pattern.
Bramley parkrun this morning, 20.50, but it took ages to get scanned in so i could say 20.40 really. Started on 2 breath strides and found a good rhythm.
Bramley is my least favorite local Parkrun (I live in Otley) I did Roberts Park yesterday, flat course.
When you do this 2 stride breathing are you breathing in through your nose and out through your mouth, or is it mouth/mouth?Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
I tried it but as soon as I started breathing nose/mouth it all fell apart!
Mouth/mouth. I can do 3 step on nose/mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
Run up to Simon's Seat and Lord's Seat from the Pavillion today, it's about 9m/2000' at least, a good BM including the hill on the return. Very good weather and plenty of walkers about. Legs hadn't seen a good climb in a while and the pace dropped to steady tempo after the trig.
My favorite local run! Often do it from Barden Bridge to get out of paying parking fee,Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Starting to ride into work a few days a week, mainly because I can't afford petrol any more, but also because it will be good for establishing an aerobic base.
So 17m on the bike and 6m with Horsforth Harriers tonight, all the women were discussing the menopause.
Bramley parkrun this morning, 20.54, but it took 20s to get scanned so I'm approaching 20.30 now.
Great to see the improvement MrB
9m/2000' up to Simon's seat and lord's seat, same as last week. Hotter day than was forecast, but managed a better overall pace.
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Originally Posted by mr brightside
This looks, sounds and smells like improvement Mr BQuote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Well done, keep it up
Still harrumphing quite a lot though, just clear phlegm from the lungs.
Bramley parkrun this morning, 20.25, but it to0k about 15s to get scanned due to queues. At one point i identified that i could run on less breaths than i was taking, so overbreathing again.
I haven't really been bothering with thursday runs, i'm doing enough for someone still post viral.
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Originally Posted by mr brightside
Without wanting to dampen your spirits... i'm pretty sure that all park runs take your time as you cross the line... there's someone there who basically taps a phone button each time someone crosses.
As long as you stay in the correct position in line, you get the correct time. I've only ever had one questionable time given on a parkrun, and that was only 5 seconds.
20:25 is heading the right way
I'm normally too oxydebted to notice, i'll check next time...if i can see straight.
One ACW loop of thruscross reservoir starting and finishing at the swinsty carpark. The run up the Washburn valley was drier than expected and I ran it at 3 step breathing, increasing to 2 up the dam and round the reservoir. I found I could maintain pace on 3 breaths on the flats. Tea and cake at the Washburn heritage centre after. 9m/700'
21.02 on the old parkrun this morning, so going the wrong way again, but i've had another throat infection this week and my phlegm situation has got worse.
Did a load of reps in the woods last night humping logs back to the car. 0.2m/60' jog out, then 0.2m -60' with a 20kg log on my shoulder. Decided to do it all in one evening and double time it, as the bruising to my shoulder was going to take days to go away. It hurts quite a bit today! 12 reps in total.
Began the day today by coughing up a load of yellow crap into the bog, a sure sign my body is struggling with infection. Ran about 10m/1800' from Bolton Abbey today, up to Simons Seat then back over Laund Wood to Cony Warren, return along Strid Wood. I felt drained and fatigued most of the time and slowed the pace after simons seat, i was dropped to a walk by a short steep incline near laund wood- my legs just drained themselves of all energy and quit. I got going again on the flat, but this is the trademark of post-viral running, constantly firing on 3 cylinders.
I feel really wiped out today, like i've been on a weekend bender. My legs don't even hurt.
Couple of rides in already this week, 34m. Just short of 6m with Horsforth Harriers last night, zone 2 pace for me. Hoping for a much better parkrun this saturday.
3 rides into work now, 51m. Thankfully i've been resupplied with herbal chest tea.
Parkrun this morning, 20.33, so now 1min off where I should be. Don't want to go mad with the distance tomorrow.
Which PR did you do? Hopeing to meet you at Chevin Forest sometime - got a 10 sec PB today. This will be my excuse for being slow in Guiseley Gallop tomorrow!
Bramley, geographically closest.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattPo
7m/1800' at Bolton Abbey today. Shorter loop not including Simon's Seat, felt a bit pooped after, still getting this fatigue thing. Bagged some good logs from Thruscross.
6m with Horsforth Harriers last night, steady zone 2. We went to The Billing, which is a trig i've never visited.
7m/1800' at Bolton Abbey today, same route as previous weeks and it's getting a bit boring so i might have to spend more money on petrol and do a few from Appletreewick. It was very windy on top and blustery in the valley, i was overworked a bit but ran fairly well. More logs from Thruscross on the way back, and tea and biscuits at the washburn heritage centre.
6m with Horsforth Harriers last night, about 8.30mmp. There was some awful morris dancing going on at a boozer we passed, they were making a right racket. Flipping good job i don't live anywhere nearby, i thought to myself. Aiming for 3 rides in this week.
I know a fellrunning Morris/Folk Dancer.
He does claim that all the "prancing around" (his words, not mine) has helped make his calves strong and benefits him when climbing.
There's a script for a movie in that. Local lad, struggling to place in fell races. Takes up morris dancing despite his mates and family teasing him for it. Ends up winning fell races. Earns a few bottles of wine and some socks. Still gets laughed at by his mates and family.
Road running strengthens your calves, also known as pavement prancing; so does more climbing in training. Either way you don't need to take up morris dancing i feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travs
I beg to differ Mr B, although for a different reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Years, (and years), ago I did some ballroom dancing. I was pretty rubbish at it to start with, but after persevering with it I did get slightly better. Any dancing/prancing requires a surprising amount of brain-leg co-ordination, which can only be helpful to running on uneven surfaces and switching direction. It certainly seemed to help my off-road agility
I was at a competitive level in Thai Kickboxing, which required good balance for kicking (and returning to a balanced fighting stance after the kick).
When i started skipping regularly (ie daily) my balance and calf strength dramatically increased and i was also able to maintain a good "springy" stance without fatigue... i really should resume skipping again.