Whats a club??:pQuote:
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Whats a club??:pQuote:
Originally Posted by OneHillWonder
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Originally Posted by Amex
Thats more like it!;)
a chocolate coverd biscuit, very tasty :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Amex
yeah but what if the first claim club can't even scrabble together half a team let alone a full one why should someone be excluded from entering all together - only to spend the whole sodding day pi55 wet through in a bright yellow bin bag???:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by hopey
I'm new to running so I'm assuming this "first claim" rule exists for the same reason my rugby club 1stXV couldn't pick players registered elsewhere i.e. you might draft in a couple of players from a better club to help you win a big game. If so I can understand it's existence.
But for 2nd/3rd team games if you could get players from anywhere you could find them, including the opposition as the alternative would be no game.
So I'm with Emmilou on this. If your main club isn't entering a team and you want to turn out for someone else so that they can then put out a team, surely it is for the best? More teams = more competition?
Maybe to prevent any suspicion of dodginess, a team with a mixture of members could not be placed higher than "pure" first claim 1st teams?
All sounds like rules so doesnt apply to me:cool:
Agreed. Rule 1 - No rules. oh oh we've started!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Master
It was the rules that pssied me off when I was a club secretary. It's just that you can understand where some are coming from but so many just seem to be deliberately made to make your job difficult and to stop people taking part in any sort of leisure activity. Personally I believe it's all the fault of the Rules Fairy who is a really nasty little t**t.
join another club thenQuote:
Originally Posted by emmilou
i think you did a fantastic job in the yellow bin bag
Sounds like fancy dress again;)Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
DJ you dark horse, I gather your driver is now in the pony club, great stuff, with a bit of luck five of us will be cantering around the Guisborough Woods race on the 27th. :D
Aye he is :cool: . Bad news is he's taking early retirement (b*****d) and plans to spend half the year touring europe in his huge motor home with his missus.:( Worse he's about to sell his car to save money coz it'll just be sitting in his garage when he's away!:mad: Can just imagine the chaos we'll cause driving down Borrowdale/Wasdale in the motor home, it has trouble fitting on a 3 lane motorway!:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambrosia Kid
Mind you his missus didn't sound too keen on the car idea so there's hope yet!
Id agree with Daz - join another club that can get a team together. (oh yeah, you did - the club that is anti rules and organisation!!!) Methinks you might be waiting a while to get a run out in a relay!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by emmilou
Never say never about the relays....never say never.
Been there done that, the problem re taking the motorhome to Wasdale is the parking when you get there, the National trust campsite at Wasdale Head only has parking for about 5 motorhomes and you can,t pre book so you have to go and take your chance which isn't always good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deejay
You need one of these:Quote:
Originally Posted by crumblydown
http://www.nevillenewnham.co.uk/LONDON/dukw1a.jpg
Pray tell me all, what is all this about clubs? are we not just Ponies who don't care about rules and clubs and all the bullshi& that goes with it:confused:
I joined this so as not to be a member more of a renegade in the fell world.
Any more of this and we will have to start a new pony club
We could call it the PP!!
Pure Pony:p
Any ponies that are on the Xmas on the fells the start time is going to change so as to give us more time to get Wankere& the night before pls see thread
I think the problem might be that you have set yourself up to be different but havent really said exactly what you stand for; so you have some members who are wanting to run in relays and are willing to pay to affiliate to do that and others that arent interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amex
Whether you like it or not the fact that you have given your 'club' a name, invited people to join, set up a website, sold vests etc suggests some level of organisation. Its all very well saying you dont want all the bullshit, but one persons bullshit is a necessary evil for other people to get what they want from the sport - some degree of organisation, a sense of belonging, racing as part of a team, organised events with rules etc
this is all getting a bit heavy aint it......:confused:
Ponies are good for carting about heavy things, while most other animals will just moan and complain. Ponies will just cheerfully get on with the job.
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Originally Posted by Dux de lux
I could, if i so wished get involved in this with you but to be fair i can't be arsed!
I do what i do as i am sure you do, have a good day and a very merry Christmas god bless;)
And a merry Christmas to you too Amex!
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Originally Posted by Dux de lux
Dux de Lux, at the great risk or repeating myself (read the magazine article), I think we have been very clear about what we stand for. We stand for individualism and no pressure. That meant / means that members do as they please..... if they want to meet to train and race together, then great, if they want to never see another Fell pony and just race in the vest (or a homemade version of it-equally great) then great........Im quite sure that our interested parties will form a relay team at some point......those that have no interest will just get on with doing what THEY want to do......
Do you see how life an be so simple?
Here's the extent of our 'organistion':
New pony asks for vest, I order it. End of.
New pony doesn't ask for vest. We say 'Welcome on board, if we can help give us a shout'.
Simple as. No fees, no pressure, just the fun. That's what we said, thats what we ve stuck to.
Good response - sounds a lot like my club. I think the reason for my pondering is that when ponies talk about the nagative side of clubs and fell running - 'bullshit', comitees, pressure, cost.... it just isnt my experience at all. It just makes me think that there must be lots of clubs out there that are very different to the one im in.
Happy running
Just throwing my 'proud to be a pony' hat in the ring - the club I have been running with two nights a week are a general running club and none of regulars really enter much in the way of fell races. Although I have run in races with their vest, other than in team events the vest hasn't really meant anything to me. Its not like a football team that I support or anything serious like that ;).
Also on a good day, with a following wind and no beer the night before, I can finish at a time half as long again as the winning runner in a fell race so the only competition I have is me, the elements and maybe a previous pb. The only race I have run in as a pony so far, the tour of Pendle, was great because every now and then (until my wheels fell off) I'd be jockeying for position with a pony or be overtaken by one and even at this early stage it felt like I belonged :D
Cool, I'd meant to be at Pendle myself til injury took a hold.
Dux de Lux, sounds like your club has got a good balance. The article was never intended to be a dig at every club or at a specific club. It was a broad reflection of my experience in the number of clubs I ve been a member of.
Please Dux de lux:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dux de lux
I honestly meant it i do wish you a very peaceful crimbo, and hope you get all you wish for, i really could not be arsed to discuss all the pro's and con's about Clubs, it was not a go at what you stand for or believe in.
Like the vast majority in this sport we have to beat ourselves before others, and as stolly says "it felt like i belonged" could be a mission statement.
If you ever see me at a race and to be fair i am hard to miss, come shake my hand and lets drink to each others health!
I think this question fits here.
Why is it that when folk decide to be an individual and move out of the mould, they then spend there life justifying themselves to others?
someone asked a question, so I felt obliged to answer.....I dont see it as a case of having to justify myself or the ponies.....more explanation/ than justification in my eyes.....I think we're a pretty straight forward bunch and I think we jokingly (mostly jokingly) use the term 'radicals' for the banter...... Its hardly a revolutionary idea by any means, and as they say,
there's nothing new under the sun.
Amex, perhaps you could drink to my health also sir.
:)To heavy for me im out of here
Remember one thing, we are all on this forum because we like to run on the fells. That means we all have something in common. That means we can all get on with each other despite other differences in our lifestyles, its not heavy, its easy with a bit of effort. I personally respect and admire every man, jack of you and will drink to all your healths, but not tonight as i'm working. Whose round is it anyway?
I go away for 2 days and you go all serious?
Someone post a funny horse in a fancy blanket pic or something....wheres DJ?:D
I am serious, Master, is it your round?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by The Master
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Originally Posted by merrylegs
Where's me coat?:cool:
Don't you mean New Zealand rug?? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by The Master
aaaaaand relaaaaax....
http://www.madaboutmountains.com/50213q.jpg
(Clough Head, before anybody asks)
What do you get if you sit under a cow???
A pat on the head!!!:D
*courtesy of my 9 year old - alas he knew of no horsey jokes so I sent him to bed without any supper!!*
This is ultra lightweight for the runner wanting every advantageQuote:
Originally Posted by The Master
AND IT'S PINK!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Deejay
HURRAH!!!:D :D :D :D
Thats better...
The thread is back on track:D
I've become a p(h)on(e)y. Thanks Master/Monster.