Today's Injuries

I've not run since PPP. Fairly certain I've got the dreaded 'runners knee' like Jamie. Definitely got all classic symptoms; soreness in and around both knee caps, pain walking downstairs especially after sitting for a while etc. I know Jamie's struggling to get rid of this and now know how he feels. Hating not being able to pull some kit on and have a steady trot up the Beacon or a dash round Strid Woods but trying to stay sane / fit with some mountain biking. Has anyone seen this off and have any advice please?

I've no idea if I had the same thing DT but in January I jarred my left knee and had very similar symptons to yours. I gritted my teeth and carried on running though, sometimes using one of those narrow knee support bands (although I have no idea if it helped other than psychologically). I would also plaster the knee in deep heat before a run which again made me feel more confident and warmed up but may or may not of actually done any good. By carrying on running, I would get a build up of water on the knee each time which was a bit disconcerting.

My treatment was to loaf in front of the TV in the evenings with a bag of frozen peas over my knee - this magical cure all did make a big difference (or may have just helped pass the time while the knee cured itself :rolleyes:). The water on the knee gradually receded over time so I could see it was getting better - it did take at least 8 weeks to go and, even now if I do full knee bend, heel on buttock stretch, I can still feel it a little. Mind you at one time I couldn't do these stretches on this leg at all and gradually being able to do them reassured me that it was getting better.

Running through the injury worked for me but I'd be wary of necessarily taking that as advice because there's a real chance that it could make things worse.

Andy,

Its a funny one is this, the pain is not too much to stop me running on the flat. I'm just really aching for a few days afterwards enough to tell me something is not right. The stairs can be agony, I could be being soft here.

I would prob see a physio or give it a bit of time off. I can give it 5 full days of rest until I think its completely gone. I then run and it comes straight back.

I echo everything that Stolly has said about the icing and stuff. My physio also told me tobuild my inner quads up to help the knee track correctly. It has become very cracky and clicky but it could have done that before.

I have been cycling on it, but I'm not sure if its to good for it. The knee is still moving through the the full 45 degree motion, therefore causing friction and more inflammation. I would defo stay out of the hard gears and stay in the seat.

It's fair enough running on the flat for a while, but at the end of the day we all want to run on the hills. I'm certainly not confident enough for downhills yet.

I really suffered after a 10k also, so I would stay off the roads also. I would rest up for a while let the inflammation go down.

Its a bugger to shift, albeit not that painful. My knee's seem to have been aching dully for 4 months now on very little running.

I'm also in the mind set of forgetting how I my knee's used to feel after a long run and whether Im reading to much into things on the back of how the injury felt at its worst.

'm slightly worried about the long term effect of running through it. (oh dont be so bloody soft)

Googling (probably the worst thing you can do) suggest 4-6 weeks full recovery with complete rest icing, stretchnig and strengthening. I have yet to try this being a complete bird brain, but it does sound like a good idea. I could have been fixed up by early March.

PS - Went to the Rams last premiership away game at Ewood, the fans seemed to be having a great time.

Jamie

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Originally Posted by Multiterrainer

Back on here again:( - minor calf pull last night - still managed to continue run and not horrendously tight today so 3-4 days 'RICE' should do it - he says!!

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....make that 7-8 days and counting:(. Although I didn't attempt running when in Teesdale over w/e calf has suffered from the walking. Cycled to work today but experience tells me (having suffered calf pulls on both legs on and off for the past few years) it could be a while yet before I can run comfortably again:(

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Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly

Andy,

Its a funny one is this, the pain is not too much to stop me running on the flat. I'm just really aching for a few days afterwards enough to tell me something is not right. The stairs can be agony, I could be being soft here.

I would prob see a physio or give it a bit of time off. I can give it 5 full days of rest until I think its completely gone. I then run and it comes straight back.

I echo everything that Stolly has said about the icing and stuff. My physio also told me tobuild my inner quads up to help the knee track correctly. It has become very cracky and clicky but it could have done that before.

I have been cycling on it, but I'm not sure if its to good for it. The knee is still moving through the the full 45 degree motion, therefore causing friction and more inflammation. I would defo stay out of the hard gears and stay in the seat.

It's fair enough running on the flat for a while, but at the end of the day we all want to run on the hills. I'm certainly not confident enough for downhills yet.

I really suffered after a 10k also, so I would stay off the roads also. I would rest up for a while let the inflammation go down.

Its a bugger to shift, albeit not that painful. My knee's seem to have been aching dully for 4 months now on very little running.

I'm also in the mind set of forgetting how I my knee's used to feel after a long run and whether Im reading to much into things on the back of how the injury felt at its worst.

'm slightly worried about the long term effect of running through it. (oh dont be so bloody soft)

Googling (probably the worst thing you can do) suggest 4-6 weeks full recovery with complete rest icing, stretchnig and strengthening. I have yet to try this being a complete bird brain, but it does sound like a good idea. I could have been fixed up by early March.

PS - Went to the Rams last premiership away game at Ewood, the fans seemed to be having a great time.

Jamie

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I haven't tried running and the gentle mountain biking I've done (sat down, easy gear) hasn't seemed to irritate it

Think I'm just going to keep icing and not running and see what happens. Problem on horizon is Yoredale 100 :eek: . Did RRR50 as qualifier and have entered etc and will be gutted if can't do it. I'll take my chance at walking it and suppose have couple or three of weeks to go yet.

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Originally Posted by Mountain Goatess

Hi Manhar, how was Coiners? Sorry to hear your achilles is giving you grief. I can sympathise with you as mine has been sore for about a month. It doesn't bother me much when walking or running, it's just when I've been sat for a while and especially when I get out of bed on a morning. Did you have the same problem last year then?

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Hi Mountain Goatess

Coiners was good - nice n boggy - just how I like my running. Felt the achilles stiffen during the race but not too severe to have to pull up. A couple of years ago I did have the same symptons that you have described here but the crucial thing was I was able to continue running. Then last year I had problems in the achilles area where I couldn't run at all - Funnily enough around the same time in the year - I'm just hoping that I'm not out for too lengthy a period as I will be crawling up the walls, now that the summer is finally here.

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Originally Posted by Manhar

Hi Mountain Goatess

Coiners was good - nice n boggy - just how I like my running. Felt the achilles stiffen during the race but not too severe to have to pull up. A couple of years ago I did have the same symptons that you have described here but the crucial thing was I was able to continue running. Then last year I had problems in the achilles area where I couldn't run at all - Funnily enough around the same time in the year - I'm just hoping that I'm not out for too lengthy a period as I will be crawling up the walls, now that the summer is finally here.

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Hope you get it sorted quickly, Manhar, summer never lasts that long:eek:

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

Hope you get it sorted quickly, Manhar, summer never lasts that long:eek:

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Yep hope you can work through it and feel better soon. Take it easy :)

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

I've not run since PPP. Fairly certain I've got the dreaded 'runners knee' like Jamie. Definitely got all classic symptoms; soreness in and around both knee caps, pain walking downstairs especially after sitting for a while etc. I know Jamie's struggling to get rid of this and now know how he feels. Hating not being able to pull some kit on and have a steady trot up the Beacon or a dash round Strid Woods but trying to stay sane / fit with some mountain biking. Has anyone seen this off and have any advice please?

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Think i have got this DT, my knees are in agony even when i walk now...anyone know the best cure or is it plain old boring rest ?

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Originally Posted by FREDDIE

Think i have got this DT, my knees are in agony even when i walk now...anyone know the best cure or is it plain old boring rest ?

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Hi Freddie, have you taken anything for it, ie anti-inflammatories?