I am thinking of doing this next week I notice the email address is tiscali.co.uk which as been taken over with talktalk try [email protected]Quote:
Originally Posted by MOUNTAIN MAN
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I am thinking of doing this next week I notice the email address is tiscali.co.uk which as been taken over with talktalk try [email protected]Quote:
Originally Posted by MOUNTAIN MAN
Cumbria Traverse - Has anyone managed to sort public transport options from south to north or visa versa.
I certainly haven't - it'd be a long an complicated journey that's for sure. You'd have to walk into or out of Broughton Mills unless you got a taxi from Broughton (assuming Broughton's got a taxi).Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry
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Originally Posted by Splatcher
At a guess (I haven't ever had to do this): Bus from Keswick to Kendal; train from Kendal to Lancaster (there's no main line stop at Carnforth any more); train from Lancaster to Barrow; train from Barrow to Foxfield. Then you need to walk or arrange a taxi. The last train leg might be done in reverse from somewhere like Whitehaven to Foxfield so you'd just need to get to Whitehaven.
I've no idea if any of the above actually link up and it might take you longer than the traverse itself.
I've just looked at bus timetables
and looks like there's a 55 leaves Keswick at 8:39am
to Ambleside for 9:15
then an X33 from Ambleside at 9:26am which goes through Coniston to Broughton In Furness (and onwards to Ravenglass), which reaches a stop called "Road To Woodland" (which looks like a short walk to Broughton Mills) at 10:14am
this looks fairly doable
am I missing something?
Tried that email address but got ' rejected by the recipient domain'
I can say that I have both sent to and received emails from Dick using [email protected] in recent times.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfh
Great detective work Daz. I have been pondering for ages how to put this together by bus. I always looked at the options for catching the bus back from keswick having finished the route, but nothing seemed to work. I think I found a way of getting to Coniston or perhaps Torver at best but meant a very early start for the run.Quote:
Originally Posted by DazTheSlug
this week end DPers GreenFlash(Willy) and Lewis bivvied at the start and then walked the CW on Saturday. another good effort in bad weather.
So is there a better way to the first top than Wainwright talks about in his book - which is go past hovel knott on the ulpha track before turning right? It is extra distance.
I reccied it on the way to a climbing club meet last w/e - and tried a direct route up (dire, seriously deep bracken, and wet) - and then tried coming down east of hovel knott , similar! - Did I miss anything? Theres a stream which climbs to a point 400m north of great stickle from which a back track could be made, but it does not seem shorter than wainwrights route.
Coming to which , do you just reckon the top of caw from the closest point on the footpath where it enters a stream reentrant? Or is it more subtle than that?
BTW - respect to the lakeland hundred ers. I saw a lot of them trotting past in wasdale ....and the weather was not the nicest that w/e
Myself, my brother and a friend completed the cumbrian traverse on Friday. From white maiden to Swirl how the weather closed in but after that we had glorious weather. This is the single most enjoyable run I have ever done, probably because there is no time limit and you have chance to take in the magnificent views.
I definitely recommend this challenge to anyone who loves the lakes as much as I do - you wont be disappointed.
It took us 11 hours 36 minutes - but it really didnt seem that long.
We didnt attempt to try and use public transport - I would imagine to get from Keswick to Broughton Mills in the evening would not be quick, in fact probably best to just run the route in reverse ;-)
some pics from our completion of this yesterday - fantastic route.
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/ed...137.667513713/
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Here's the data from our successful Cumbrian Traverse attempt today.
No photos, though when the sun shone the views were stunning, especially down to Ennerdale from Windy Gap!
Highly recommend the route, great day out and excellent training for a BGR attempt.
you seem to have to register to view this!
Looks like the website is down at the moment - I made it open to public viewing and know that friends have viewed - fingers crossed it is back up tomorrow! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tomphillips
The gofar web page has been updated with all completions to the end of 2012:-
http://www.gofar.org.uk/Cumbrian%20Traverse.html
87 completions so far. If you've not done it yet why not put it in your diary for 2013 - let's see if it can notch up 100 by the end of the year!
Good man Tony - that needed doing. It's such a good route to run. I may even have another go some time, in the right direction this time!
I really fancy a go at this myself, will have to see if I can fit it in along with all the other stuff I've got planned for this year!Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatcher
It's a really good training run for JNLC or BG preparation, when you need a change from recces. About half a BG or 2/3 of a JNLC. It only shares Great End summit to Bowfell summit with the BG, & Honister to Bowfell summit with the JNLC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martyn P
Indeed. I think I'm going to leave the JNLC for a while, I was looking at it the other day and from what I can tell it's pretty tough as regards time at the lower end of the age scale. Something to look forward to when I'm a bit older (and the time allowance gets a bit more generous! :D)Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatcher
Agreed. If you can do a BG at the age of 55 you can get round the JNLC in under the 15 hour target - I know that from experience. My estimate is that you'd have to be able to run a 21-hour BG to get round the JNLC in 12 hours - the target for V50s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martyn P
A sub 12 hr JNLC pace feels more like a 19hr BG pace. Not a scientific estimate but borne of personal experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatcher
I thought after I posted the "21 hour" estimate it was probably a bit optimistic, so I'm sure you're right. Well out of my league anyway!Quote:
Originally Posted by alf.t
Although the pace is tougher than a BG, I think you are being unfare to yourselves here. The people I know who have done sub 12 hour JNC's havent done sub 21 hour BG's let alone sub 19.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatcher
I'm starting to formulate a plan for this in the summer, involving 2 car loads of runners.
Idea would be one lot head north, others head south and then swap cars for the first bit of the return journey - meeting at a handy eatery post run.
Anyone from the Sheffield area, or somewhere on the way, fancy this?
let me know the date when you decide..Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulE
I'll keep an eye on your plans too as me and bill were thinking of possibly slipping it in aswell
My JNLC took 13:56 in 2011, my BG 23:37 in 2012. I was probably slightly fitter for the JNLC as I'd had a break from BG training with a chest infection. My guess is that if I'd been fully fit I'd have knocked an hour off the BG time at most. I couldn't have done the JNLC any faster. Conditions were comparable I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corniceman
Thats interesting Splatcher as I too had umed and ahed about whether to go for a sub 12 JNC and decided not to almost on the basis of what you say above. My BG was faster but not an astonishing time so I hesitated. Since then though I have met several people who have acheived sub 12 JNC's and done 23 hr ish BG's. One is a regular forumite not far from you in Staffs and another is someone who did both last Summer at the tender age of 57! Perhaps its about the type of terrain that suits different styles. For instance I know a Scottish chap who upon completeing the Ramsay quite easlily complained about the amount of fastish running required on a BG rather than the tough climbs or the picking a line through rough ground. he gave up on the BG?! I know from supporting JNC's that it alls feels very full on from the start to Dunmail and its generally very kind terrain compared with the rougher slower stuff elsewhere. having wandered off subject though in this thread I really would like to do a Cumbria Traverse its the transport logistics that are my obstacle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatcher
No doubt you were refuring to me sir. My BGR was 23hrs 24 mins. in 2006. My JNC was 11hrs 47 mins in 2010 aged 51.
key to my JNC was the weather. I waited for a calm dry weekend in september. Conditions were perfect. JNC needs to be treated like an extremely long fell
race.
Any way we are on the wrong thread I guess. I can confirm that the Cumbria traverse is an excellent day out and should be on your must do list.
Come on Corniceman...you know you want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corniceman
Its the Joss Naylor Challenge, not the Joss Naylor Foregone Conclusion :)
You can't really compare the two as the Joss Naylor is much shorter.Quote:
Originally Posted by andy k
I've done a 23:40 BG but done the Cumbrian Traverse in 8:58 and the OCT in 9:15 (after BG leg 4 support 12 hours earlier) and will be going for a sub 12 JNC in two years
Give t a go Corniceman :D
I'm 50 next December - that would be a good challenge - a Joss Naylor Challenge in Winter!
I've thought that Tom but don't think Joss likes the idea of winter attempts if its an official runQuote:
Originally Posted by tomphillips
Dale, indeed so! Hope you dont mind me using you as the example here, although I guess it's one to be proud of! and one I dont think I could acheive? problem is I have other things on my mind as I approach 55 next year there is the little task of adding 13 summits to a BG and before then a little stroll around some Scottish Mountains, but want to keep that lowish key!Quote:
Originally Posted by Moorlander
Sorry Dale but back on topic........The CT. As you know I'd love to do it but most of my Notts based friends dont drive so we always have the problem of needing to do circuits or things where buses can get you back to the start. Be nice to get a Staffs team event together this Spring. I know big Jon and Bryan C have their eyes on a Scottish Round this year so perhaps we can do a trip up to The Lakes as prep. it would make a change from doing The Siabod Leg of The PBR which we seem to do several times a year!
Andy, You are dead right, but time and all that, and I really want to explore a bit to the North of you.Quote:
Originally Posted by andy k
ah well now, other priorities, thats perfectly valid.
what's the plan ?
I'm going to have Friday off work, go up to Broughton Mills and recce the first bit of this up to Brown Pike
then play it by ear wrt severity of wind/snow and mess about on the Coniston fells til it goes dark
I hope the wind dies down a bit for you Daz. It's blowing a hoolie here now. It was much the same on 2011 when I did the Cumbrian Traverse, & I had to keep off the Coniston ridge, contouring along & fighting my way up to each top. We're off to Hartsop Friday night for our annual families gettogether. I've devised a mini mountain marathon day for Saturday so my daughter can get some navigation practice before the Saunders.Quote:
Originally Posted by DazTheSlug