Excellent breeding, my Mum's family came over from Ireland, sod the BNP, we'll set up our own party the MPP..................Magyar Paddy Party:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guick Dotto
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Excellent breeding, my Mum's family came over from Ireland, sod the BNP, we'll set up our own party the MPP..................Magyar Paddy Party:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guick Dotto
From the age of 18 i have only missed voting a handful of times. I never thought i would vote for anyone else than Labour but the Tony Blair era put an end to that, now i vote for the party which represents views closest to mine at the time and i also take local issues into account. So last week i voted BNP in the Euro elections and Green Party in the County Council elections.Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Nick Griffin is reported to be fuming after the egging outside parliament. They didn’t separate the whites first.
Which European views of the BNP were closest to yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
I that case, maybe you could run in BNP style fell races where only white British are allowed to enter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
I would have thought more highly of you, if you would have said you did not vote for BNP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
And you have morals of speeding and other things like that, wheres your morals in voting for them?
Just curious, you do not have to reply, after all its a free country all allowed to vote for whoever we want to vote for!
While i had no problem 'confessing' that i voted BNP it would be pointless me trying to justify it on here because no doubt it would just end up in a slanging match
I personally wouldn't argue with you. I voted Tory - which some also demonise. I may have a healthy debate over a beer, but you are entitled to your view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
Ultimately the mainstream can only deal with you RH if they are seen to be doing something for you.
It is often very easy to find a reason not to vote in a particular way, but too hard to find a good reason to vote positively for somebody.
Hopefully the self-interested way in which many politicians have handled themselves, and it's embarasing exposure, will bring in a new style of politics which will give us more cause for optimism.
I'm not holding my breath:rolleyes:
Thank you for your vote Mr Head.
Does everyone posting here think the party wants to kick everyone out of the UK that is non white because that is utter tosh! We want to kick out the jokers who pass through many other very fine european countries to reside here and milk the system for all it's worth - that's who we want to kick out and keep out irrespective of the colour of their skin.
Nick.
I think some of you are giving Mr Head a hard time. How many of the people who oppose the BNP know what they stand for. For instance I've heard all sorts of allegations about them being racist, but then I see and hear Nick Griffin on the news, explaining his policies and they're contrary to all the hype.
So is Mr Griffin a liar,or are his views misrepresented by those who want to maintain the status quo? Makes me wonder after the spectacle of egg throwing, and caveman activity outside the pub he visited yesterday.
Think BNP are wrong, but it is a democracy so they have a right to be heard. I don't like it but am I wrong? I don't believe all BNP voters are neanderthal thugs and in actual fact if they put a rocket up the politicians in power so that they are more people friendly then they actually might do a service!!
I personally think the media have hyped up alot of the negativity in much of the politics, as a bad story is better news than a piece of good news.
Full respect to Mr Head on stating his vote and I honestly thought about voting for Green as well.
I know I keep harping on about it but the BBC Panorama documentary where they secretly filmed a BNP meeting with Nick Griffin and all his cronies really showed what their true colours were rather than the marginally more palatable "policies" they actually present in public.Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
You wouldn't put it past Brown to arrange the little egg throwing incident would you - it would keep Labour issues out of the news for 24 hours after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
I'm certainly no soppy left winger either, but remember the way the protesters were handled when the Chinese leader was in town, and the recent G20 protesters.
This Govt has brought the UK to a position where freedom is almost non existant.
As the son of an asylum seeker my blood runs cold at the thought of the BNP tasting power. The enormity of what they stand for takes the breath away. I voted Tory last year because I wanted to keep out a BNP candidate and that's not like me:o. (Failed to vote this time, and I use the word "failed" advisedly , because I was away on a residential and forgot to register for a postal vote.)
For God's sake read some books about the nazis, watch a film... Schindler's List or something. How can a thinking person vote BNP? My dad (you're not gonna like this Merry) fought for the Nazis and I still blush to acknowledge it; although I believe his suffering on the Eastern Front (and indeed that of the entire German nation) redeems him somewhat.
My Mam's brother was in the Welsh Guards and was D Day + 4. He won the MM in Belgium. The least I can do in his memory is not vote BNP.
The reason most migrants are here is to do a fair day's work for a fair day's pay if certain "British" scroungers had the same attitude to work there might not be quite so many job opportunities for immigrants. Think people.
CL it's not compulsory to be paradoxical.:rolleyes:
''This Govt has brought the UK to a position where freedom is almost non existant.''
The Government hasn't really done this, peoples inability to think for themselves, willingness to bend the rules where they see fit and to argue the toss on almost anything has led to the government acting (albeit on occasions very badly).
Government crack down on protestors, look back a few years at some of the Mayday riots. No, some of the Police actions were wrong but the vast majority wasn't.
Expenses racket with MPs yes it was wrong, but how many people can say hand on heart they have never fiddled expenses. Are they saying it is okay to fiddle your boss and your company?
I find it ironic the government gets the blame for everything. ''Put away all criminals'' but people complain when the prisons are full, then don't want another prison built near them.
There is alot of things wrong in this country but a hell of alot of things are right, damned good and we should be proud of them. Great Britain is fantastic, British people are fantastic on the whole but I'm afraid everywhere has some problems. I honestly don't think life should be all doom and gloom at them moment.
By point of reference, I'm from the south(ish), living up North, with half welsh, half geordie parents, when asked I just say I'm a hybrid with little chance:)!!!
Is the BNP racist? Make your own minds up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__DdF...om=PL&index=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqI2k...om=PL&index=19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC-SN...rom=PL&index=3
Let's not forget Griffin's criminal record (preventing him from becoming a councillor) for inciting racial hatred.
Sure your Dad was a good bloke GD, don't know the circumstances but many people throughout history have been forced to fight for something they don't believe in, people judge others too quickly, my Dad was too young to be involved and he and his family were forced to leave Hungary when the Russians invaded. They spent time in Austria, nearly starving to death, before eventually arriving in England, where he built himself a new life and worked hard every day till he passed away in 1999.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guick Dotto
Remember being called a Nazi at school and having many a punch up with bullies, i am proud of my father and never thought of him as a foreigner or incomer, he was just a good, honest, decent bloke.
Sod all this "congratulations for confessing to voting BNP"...
Let's not beat around the bush.
If you vote BNP you are either:
1. thick or
2. racist or
3. thick and racist.
No amount of respectable posturing by Griffin and his cohorts will persuade me differently. If you want to register a protest vote then put a cross against the greens or even UKIP, anyone but the BNP.
BNP..........not for me, i treat people how i find them, and have many black, brown, yellow, pink and green friends:cool:
I put a cross against the Greens and it wasn't a protest vote.:confused:
[QUOTE=crowhill;230016]Sod all this "congratulations for confessing to voting BNP"...
Let's not beat around the bush.
If you vote BNP you are either:
1. thick or
2. racist or
3. thick and racist.
No amount of respectable posturing by Griffin and his cohorts will persuade me differently. If you want to register a protest vote then put a cross against the greens or even UKIP, anyone but the BNP.[/QUOTE
Wisest words yet from a wise man
Merry you are a very generous bloke and you always seem to try to see the best in people. When we are voting we should follow that principle. People used to say Thatcher was a fascist. She was a very right wing tory but no way fascist. Hitler, Mussolini, Franco (Stalin) they were fascists. They murdered people wholesale. All fascists are murderers or murderer apologists. That's what Griffin is. Do not be fooled by the fact that he looks ordinary. Hitler looked ordinary.Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylegs
Always been a pretty good judge of character, and not easily fooled;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Guick Dotto
The Fascists you mention are also cowards, they got other people to murder for them, people who were probably doing it in fear of their own lives or their families, and had to live with that for the rest of their lives:(
I didn't mean you were easily fooled Merry I meant "one" should not be fooled and, I suppose, especially RH.
Just in case you thought I did:o
I knew what you meant mate, you didn't fool me:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guick Dotto
Thanks for that Heathens, I've been trying to find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHeathens
Have you watched it yet CL? Do you still think these people should be listened to?
Yes, the right to free speech is the cornerstone of democracy but a sensible/rational line has to be drawn. That line for me is inciting hate/violence or actual violent acts against innocent people. No matter what Griffin etc says in public these are his true colours and I'm not happy that he is now an official representative of this country and I can't believe that you are either.
Just a couple of points crowhill. I didnt want any credit for saying i voted BNP, Heathens asked if anyone on here had done and i have never had a problem telling anyone who i voted for.Quote:
Originally Posted by crowhill
If you read my post i never said it was a protest vote and finally calling someone thick because they hold opposing views to yourself is hardly a convincing argument
I don't want to get drawn into a row - but in my opinion the BNP are despicable and if you didn't vote for them as a protest vote then it's even worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
Also, I didn't say you were thick - If you re-read my post you'll see there's a choice in there and not being thick is one of them.
Yes I'm glad you understand! Paradox.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guick Dotto
But when you ask someone a question such as "are you thick or stupid" in effect you aren't giving any reasonable options.Quote:
Originally Posted by crowhill
There are many more possible reasons than the 3 that you gave as to why RH voted in the way he did.
Although it is unlikley he would convince me that his reasoning was sound, he is entitled to make his decision without being put down.
No but I'll watch it when I get home tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikalas
Harriet Harmen was in the commons last night, declaring NEW equality laws, and she said that under them the BNP couldn't stop black people from joining them.
This is one of the things I mentioned before about the government discriminating for and against certain groups. People should have the legal right to hold racist views. When the government starts making laws to prevent people holding certain convictions, it isn't long before the last remnents of freedom vanish.
The way things are going, we will see a dictatorship in this country. A dictatorship brought about by those who pretend to love freedom, and corrupt it's true meaning.
At the moment you can have any politician you want as long as they're grey. We asked for them, and we're getting exactly what we deserve,because we don't consider ourselves worthy enough to be free.
The BNP got two MEPs elected not due to a huge surge in BNP support, but because other voters stayed away.
It's not just people such as RH who shoulder the responsibility, it's people who didn't vote for non-racist parties. This time, I was one of those people.
If electing BNP MEPs increases voter turnout next time, then that's one good thing to come out of the BNP.
And another thing: why can't people register their annoyance at mainstream politics by voting for comedy parties like they used to. Are the monster raving loony party still in existence? I remember great policies, such as importing the EU butter mountain to help our ski team, and releasing all innocent prisoners to prevent overcrowding. We could now be having a discussion about the pros and cons of holding a press conference in a public fountain.
Comedy parties nothing:Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Okay, this from Wiki, but it is well documented (was too lazy to find a better source) that several things that the MRLP have campaigned for in the past have become law many years later.Quote:
Originally Posted by wikipedia
Noel i haven't seen them in years!Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
*Hatred grows on Ignorance* BNP knows that!
Can I ask perhaps a stupid question:
is racism illegal ?
http://www.omrlp.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Don't think so: you can dislike whoever you want regardless of the basis of that hatred (e.g. race, colour). This is where the existence of parties like the BNP are protected by the right to free speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by are we there yet
But to act on those beliefs to discriminate, abuse - physically/verbally - harass, incite violence...that's when the law gets involved. And also where it gets a bit murky to say the least for the BNP.
Unfortunately not!Quote:
Originally Posted by are we there yet
Bugger !!Quote:
Originally Posted by NirvanaBliss
Well for me that's the answer, whoever adds 'making racism illegal' onto their manifesto is getting my vote!!
Simple- racism is wrong.
I agree!!Quote:
Originally Posted by are we there yet