Just for future bumps of this thread - there was a cutoff of 1:30hrs at Checkpoint 3.
Shouldn't be a problem for most of you, but I don't think I'd have made it even in better conditions.
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Just for future bumps of this thread - there was a cutoff of 1:30hrs at Checkpoint 3.
Shouldn't be a problem for most of you, but I don't think I'd have made it even in better conditions.
Just so i know i'm not taking the credit for someone elses honesty, are you the bloke who didn't want to waste the bit of twix?Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylegs
I was using you as a pace setter for quite some time, i prefer to run that way, but i stopped to fix myself some grog at CP4 and that was the last i saw of you.
Yeah that was me, but it was a bit of Boost! No worries using me as a pace setter mate, you had a white t-shirt and black bottoms on right. Enjoyed the course, tough but satisfying;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
What kit did you get pinched mezza
Rucsac with around £200 worth of stuff in it, me own fault for leaving it unattended:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboTom
Disgusting to think that a fell runner would pinch it. Me and Scott just left all our stuff on the field at Burnsall without second thought. Il be a lot more careful nowQuote:
Originally Posted by merrylegs
You misunderstand, wasn't nicked at fell race!Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboTom
Brilliant race! Love running in the Howgills. Some truly reckless descending as it is just soft grass to fall on if it goes wrong! Weather was perfect for running.
Managed to take off 40 minutes on my 2007 time so happy with that!
If that wasn't enough ABD and myself went and did the gofar.org.uk 31 1500" tops the next day and added on a near 30 miles and 10,000ft (route 25 miles and 9500ft but had to get to the starting point). Descending into a shuffle early on but we finished in a reasonable state considering.
Adding to that I get back home to find the Rab mountain marathon is going to be held in the Howgills! Couldn't have had a better training weekend
Yep that was me.Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylegs
Fab race, first AL, took it a tad too easy in the first half (but that was deliberate; will know I can go faster next time), although one chap went past me like lightening just after Chapel Beck going up to Castley Knotts but caught him up going up to the Calf.
Took the wrong trod round Calder (it was actually Bram Rigg Top) which resulted in adding an extra few ks onto the distance (the scree traverses were an unwelcome addition); sorry Ashley (Dark Peak, but weren't they all!) for leading you astray!
Bit gutted to have not broken 3hrs by 25s, but know that would have been sub 3h if we hadnt gone sightseeing, Merry you must have been just behind me as I was 47th (in a red and white T, not a club one, with Skins shorts and Inov8 bum bag).
Many thanks for a great race and much respect to the marshalls, the chap at CP3 needs a medal.
Really - http://www.sportident.co.uk/results/...ltsSplits.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by RichK
The split results are only there for 2006 with 1:45 splits at CP3, but I don't think I made 1:30 in either of my attempts in 2007 & 8.
I would have been close, but probably more like 1:35 and there were plenty behind me.
I've finished 3:30 - 3:45 so those that were 4 hour plus must have been way outside 1:30 at CP3!
We didn't leave the hall until after 4.30 and there were still 4 people still out on the course. Apparently one who was told to retire at CP1 and refused!
its still a long way back from cp3 so not much point pulling out then
Yeah, it was really weird. I wasn't aware of any cut offs at all, none were mentioned at registration or in the starter's announcements.
I was told afterwards that they were posted up in the hall somewhere, although I always make a point of checking the posters and I only saw an advert for the Pete Bland map.
Anyway, we were timed out at CP3. To be fair I'd ambled a bit, wanting to have a fast second half. There were 5 others in my immediate area and a few behind. The marshall took our numbers as retirements. We nearly turned back, but realising we were half way we carried on. The marshall ok'd this but warned us that CP4 would be long gone by the time we got there.
Strangely not only were the (lovely) team at checkpoint 4 still there, but they were cheerfuly unaware of any cut offs and told us we were going well! Same at 5 and 6.
Then at the finish no one was aware of any cut off times so we were told we had a finish time!
All very confusing, but we were definitely told that 1:30 was the time at CP3.
I'm starting to get worried now, i don't know what my time was yet, circa 3.20 i think...
Loved the race, ab fab, but my quads are absolutely blasted :eek:. Feel like a tank has driven over them. Anyone else unable to do stairs or walk properly after sitting for a while?
Legs ache like ten men, still been running today and will be at the Piethorne race on wednesday;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brummy John
Yes John, it's bizarre, I can hardly walk, I've never had such a reaction after a race. Must be something about the hill profile?? :confused:
Guess so, not ached this much since first ever marathon - hilliest run I've done for the mileage. I'll be out running tomorrow anyway, aches seem to lasyt longer if you do nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichK
My quads are still aching, but the most uncomfortable thing at the moment are my ankles - they've not quite got to grips (quite literally at points) with contouring steep slopes, and are telling me about it. Hopefully a run tomorrow should shake that out.
Still, for what I've worked out is the longest race I've done, the most climb and and the only race with anything other than fairly friendly conditions, I'm quite happy to have been able to cross the line still running!
Though it would be interesting to go back and actually see the route at some point!
Glad you enjoyed it Liam, you did ok and you were good company on the journey there and back;)Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamM
The cut offs were indeed posted in the hall for all to see. I certainly saw them.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichK
Any experienced (that's what the ER bit means) fell runner would expect cut-off times on an AL race over that sort of country. How long would you want to keep the marshals out in that sort of weather?
I infer that you mean I expect marshalls to wait as long as necessary for inexperienced idiots to blunder past.
Point me to where I said that in any of my messages.
There should indeed be cut offs, and as an experienced fell runner (I know what ER means) I am well used to them. And I have myself marshalled at cut off points in the past and timed runners out - not a pleasant experience but sometimes necessary.
If the race organiser wants 6 minute miling that is their choice and all runners should comply with this.
I merely pointed out on this thread that as far as I know there is a cut off of 1:30 at Checkpoint 3 for the benefit of future readers of the thread. And then the following conversation was pointing out that I wasn't 100% sure of this because I hadn't seen them posted and none of the other race officials I spoke to knew about the cut off.
I do think the time should have been more clearly posted, as in my experience they usually are (I have experience, Rudolph), but that is something I would pass on directly to the RO and not moan about on here.
Cut off times fine - but if it indeed is 1:30 for CP3, that's crazy - I was slightly over that last year and I remember being passed by Karen Nash (amongst others) between 3 & 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudolph Hooker
If a runner of her calibre was to be timed out then the cut-off is wrong.
1:30 would be a crazy time for CP3 - 1:45 would be more appropriate.
In 2006 where they have the sportident splits, the first 1:30+ runner had a finishing time of 3:26 and a typical 1:30 - 1:40 split gave a finishing time of 3:30-3:45.
Not too shabby
Yeah, I'd have said 1:30 is tight, 1:45 was fair and 2:00 would be really loose.
Its perfectly possible we misheard the time as we were in the middle of a race in bad weather.
If anyone saw the time posted in the hall, could you post it here? Then I'll know if its worth having another attempt next year. 1:45 would be easy to get through.
This was a cracking race but its not without communication problems. I couldn't find an official website with information.
Before the race I e-mailed the organiser to find out if its entry on day, or pre entry only. Quite an important question. No reply.
I didn't see the cut off times in the Hall and genuinely didn't know there were any. I had turned up for a steady run so it would have been useful to have known there were cut off times.
If anyone can find out what the official cut off times are I'll post them here for future reference, along with other useful info like 'entry on day' and no qualifying races needed.
Your GPS page is a good write up as always John!
If an old bugger like me can manage it, it can't be that crazy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
But that's not the point - you run a race under the organiser's conditions, including his cutoffs. If you don't like the conditions, don't run the race!
And all we're doing is asking what the organiser's conditions were SO THAT WE CAN COMPLY WITH THEM.
You saw the cut off times, so can you confirm it was 1:30 at CP3.
Does anyone have an idea of when or where the results will be published? Sedbergh results are usually on the FRA website but seems like there isn't even a slot for them this year?
Was a club championship race and I was a bit sloppy and didn't take times down so eager to know winners time at least.
Dpfr have the winners time here http://www.dpfr.org.uk/index.php?p=r...&event_id=1969.
It looks like the results page us awaiting an update so it shouldn't be long. I'm not in a hurry to find out how badly I did!
I previously emailed John Broxap for info on the results posting but got no reply, i emailed him again today with reference to the checkpoint cutoffs and posting of results and explained that if he was too busy to reply to my last communication that i fully understood. If i'm the first to hear any more i'll post on here.
Can I suggest that a bit of patience might be in order with regards to results. We all want to see them, but they will be ready when they are ready. I'm sure Jon and other race organisers have jobs to go to and lives to live, so lets cut them a little slack. Its up to them when they publish them. Perhaps people should photograph the results board next time, then they've got them to look at right away.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
As for checkpoint cutoffs, its almost a year until the next race so plenty of time to sort that out.
Jon is probably looking at 3 hours to type up results, having just organised almost single handed; access permissions, parking arrangements, marshals, hire of hall, prizes, refreshments, tidying up etc. etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar
We live in an instant world - thank goodness for fell running.
couldn't agree more, what a great way to sum it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FellJunior
Quite right. The world hasn't stopped turning through lack of results yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by emmilou
and at the end of the day, we all probably have a pretty good idea of our time, and you are likely to know if you were in the top 10!Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry H Howgill
Cracking result for Rick Stuart by the way. I've only just found out he won.
Is that he of Tommys Fell Stars?Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry H Howgill
Like i said in my email to him, if he was too busy with other stuff then it was understandable. I don't expect him to drop everything he is doing to reply to my requests but i thought there may have been a chance they were posted elsewhere.
I didn't ask for my time after the event because people were still coming in and i didn't want to cause a distraction by asking, i have been told about doing this at another event, there was nobody to check in but they told me anyway.
It seems that whichever way i could have chosen, in light of the fact i had to leave Sedbergh promptly, i may be at risk of causing an inconvenience; i chose emails to JB and have done so politely.